Bible Study log
Mmelville says 'keep going chris'
~Verse to Room from Hatfield~
Ephesians 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
Christopher says 'Eph 1:21'
Christopher says 'clearly makes reference to an evil power'
Hatfield says 'go ahead and paste what you have if not kjv'
Christopher says 'we can see it in the context'
Marsuvees nods.
Christopher says 'so this power is basically evil'
Christopher says 'and christ would have nothing to do with darkness since God is light'
Marsuvees says 'Whether it be specifically Satan or not, the point remains the same'
Alric nods at Marsuvees.
Hatfield says 'what is not of God is of Satan.'
Christopher says 'the word for prince is closely related to the greek for principality btw'
Hatfield says 'makes sense Chris'
Christopher says 'I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. (John 14:30)'
Wargreymon nods.
Christopher says 'this "spirit" is not the spirit of God but of the antichrist'
Christopher says 'Paul made mention that it was already working in the disobedient'
Hatfield says 'mentions the sons of disob. in the verses sited for study'
Christopher says 'notice that Satan has power over the air, and television and radio waves are transferred through the air'
Cyto says 'remember satan said to Jesus that he would give the world to Jesus'
Christopher says 'this is likely the cause of the evil in the media'
Alric peers intently at Christopher.
Wargreymon nods.
Hatfield raises an eyebrow at Christopher's weird actions.
Alric says 'we also breathe air, we don't want to go too far here'
Mmelville says 'i think i get what ur saying'
Redfieldt nods in enthusiastic agreement with Alric.
Cyto says 'well I'd look at it more like this'
Christopher says 'the air is not physical oxygen'
Cyto says 'satan has sway over many men's hearts'
Mmelville says 'sway meaning...'
Cyto says 'control'
Cyto says 'influence'
Mmelville says 'kk'
Hatfield says 'I don't want to get off the subj of the study, but having studied communications I'd point out Christian broadcasting...and the fact that what is broadcast is by people's choices not by the medium they are broadcast through'
Christopher says '' or influence'
Redfieldt says 'well satan had control over all of our hearts before we accepted Jesus as savior'
Cyto nods.
Alric says 'the air that we breathe and the air that radio/television is transmitted through is the same air. '
Mmelville nods.
Marsuvees nods at Redfieldt.
Cyto says 'well television and radio are transmitted through space'
Hatfield says 'but it is the broadcaster's choices that determine what is broadcast'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Marsuvees says 'Which is the point of the passage, Reddy'
Alric nods at Cyto.
Cyto says 'air happens to occupy it too'
Redfieldt nods.
Christopher says 'we all at one time gratified the sinful cravings of the flesh'
Christopher says 'by nature we are all prone to sin'
Christopher says 'Cyto can expound a little more on that'
Baran says 'its possible "air" has a different context. maybe more like the influences directly in our path'
Mmelville nods.
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Alric says 'anyway  I only want to make the point that radio / broadcast media isn't inherently tainted by satan because Air happens to be one of its mediums.  After that, it's pretty tangental'
Wargreymon says, "Bah" and turns away in contempt.
Marsuvees pats Wargreymon on her head.
Redfieldt says 'anyone agree with me that everything media wise is God given talent, it's our evil intent that malforms it?'
Christopher says 'agreed'
Marsuvees says 'Often in ancient times, there was little distinction between the sky, heavens, and the places of the gods.'
Baran nods in enthusiastic agreement with Redfieldt.
Alric says 'yes'
Marsuvees nods at Redfieldt.
Mmelville says 'yes'
Hatfield says 'it is man's choices how it is used, the talent is given by God yes'
Cyto says 'when i think of air i think of freedom'
Cyto says 'of flight'
Wargreymon says '(--|CuratorS> I still need a new cat5 connector for that cord that runs from my DSL box to the router thats in the basement'
Mmelville nods.
Cyto says 'the FIRST sin was pride'
Cyto says 'Satan rebelled against God'
Christopher says 'iniquity was found in him'
Cyto says 'there's this band called Seanachai (spelling?) witha song called Unrepentant Feinian ---------'
Mmelville says 'what is that?'
Mmelville says 'i kno what a band is and what a song is but what is unrepentant reinian'
Mmelville says 'feinian*'
Cyto says 'and it goes pump your fist if you love freedom, pump your fist if you love culture, respect to all those who refuse to be mastered'
Cyto says 'and it reminds me'
Wargreymon sighs.
Cyto says 'of satan'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'they're respecting those who refuse control'
Mmelville nods.
Cyto says 'IRA band'
Dolci says 'but doesn't satan want to control us?'
Cyto says 'yes'
Cyto says 'ironic'
Mmelville says 'is it supposed to be a christian band?'
Cyto shakes his head no.
Redfieldt says 'yes and no'
Redfieldt says 'all satan wants to do'
Cyto says 'Irish republican army band'
Redfieldt says 'is to make us forsake God'
Hatfield says 'Satan, being the Lord of Lies, wants you to THINK that you have control'
Marsuvees says 'Hmm...purporting to bring about freedom, but only binding further.  Ironic indeed.'
Mmelville says 'is get u away from god becase what isnt godly is of satan right?'
Cyto says 'Satan says be free'
Cyto says 'but what is that freedom, slavery to sin'
Hatfield says 'what he's meaning is 'get away from God''
Mmelville says 'free meaning away from god right'
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Alric sighs.
Marsuvees raises an eyebrow at Alric's weird actions.
Alric says 'cranky baby'
Alric happily waves goodbye.
Marsuvees says 'Oh :)'
Marsuvees gallantly tips his hat to Alric.
Cyto says 'Jesus says Obey, but that obedience, is to perfect beauty, to love and life and joy'
Cyto says 'what you'd want anyway'
Mmelville nods.
Cyto says 'you get away from God he can control you cuz he's powerful'
Cyto says 'he wanted the worship of everyone'
Wargreymon nods.
Christopher says 'Deut 18:21'
Cyto says 'verse to room deut 18 21'
Cyto says 'and it will automatically post'
Redfieldt says 'while God wants us to worship him, he will not force us to do so'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Deuteronomy 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
Hatfield says 'because he wants us willingly, not as puppets'
Christopher says 'hmm'
Redfieldt says 'even as saved Christians, he allows us to make our own choices, '
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Cyto says 'what does the  passage say'
Baran says 'wich is why He gave us free will in the first place'
~Verse to Room from Christopher~
Deuteronomy 32:18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
Mmelville says 'which is a good thing and a bad thing i think'
Redfieldt says 'and if we make the wrong ones, we will hear Depart from me I never knew you'
Cyto says 'in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.'
Cyto says 'you walked according not to your free desire'
Cyto says 'but according to the prince of this world'
~Verse to Room from Christopher~
Deuteronomy 30:17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
~Verse to Room from Christopher~
Deuteronomy 30:18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
Christopher says ': )'
Cyto says 'Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the re'
Cyto says 'what you think about that passage'
Hatfield says 'forgive me friends, but I need to scoot'
Hatfield yawns.
Dolci hugs Hatfield.
Christopher says 'sorry for the mix up, i found it'
Cyto says 'Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest'
Hatfield says 'have a blessed night, as usual, I'll catch up on the log'
Cyto smiles at Hatfield and greets him with, "Shalom, the Lord's peace be with you."
Hatfield bows deeply.
Cyto says 'ever have the experience'
Cyto says 'where you let your thoughts go'
Cyto says 'somewhere they shouldn't'
Redfieldt says 'yep I have'
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Cyto says 'now I don't just mean about sex'
Baran says 'me too'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'I mean like anything'
Mmelville says 'im not going to lie'
Redfieldt says 'yeah I have I thought about hurting people'
Mmelville says 'me too'
Baran says 'hatred, lust, destruction...'
Christopher says 'thats the one cyto'
Cyto says 'you just get an idea in your head, and its hard to let it go'
Redfieldt says 'self loathing'
Mmelville says 'yeah icic'
Cyto says 'and I mean almost physically hard'
Cyto says 'almost seems impossible'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Cyto says 'you know its wrong'
Cyto says 'you don't want it there'
Baran says 'most who use hate tend to hate themselves most of all'
Cyto says 'but your mind keeps turning and swirling and turning'
Christopher says 'What is going on?'
Cyto says 'is that freedom'
Cyto says 'hrm Chris?'
Mmelville says 'my parents say i shouldnt hate anyone but the devil so i just dislike a lot of ppl no affence i kno i shouldnt but i do a little'
Baran says 'no its not freedom. is slavery'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'if you stay up, I'll tell you the secret to loving everybody'
Baran says 'Serving the Master is true freedom though'
Cyto says 'actually we covered it in romans 15 and eph 1'
Mmelville says 'what do u mean stay up?'
Cyto says 'till the end'
Redfieldt says 'this is gonna be an alnighter'
Mmelville says 'ok when is the end'
Cyto giggles.
Cyto says 'not really'
Christopher says 'garr i get em mixed up lol'
Redfieldt nods.
Cyto says 'we were by nature children of wrath'
Redfieldt says 'my southren coffe doesnt'
Cyto says 'talk about that'
Marsuvees chuckles politely.
Cyto says 'what do you all think about that'
Mmelville says 'what time does this get over?'
Cyto says 'we were by nature Children of wrath'
Cyto says 'usually end at 11'
Redfieldt says 'we were sinners from adam'
Cyto says 'might go a tad late'
Marsuvees says 'That's a much-debated subject'
Dolci says '11 eastern?'
Christopher says 'its 7:30 in the west'
Cyto nods at Dolci.
Redfieldt says 'adam loved eve more than God'
Mmelville says 'dude im soz i cant stay on that late but maybe my dad will let me because its bible study'
Cyto nods at Mmelville.
Dolci says 'about 30 more minutes chris'
Mmelville says 'oh is it 10:30 where u live?'
Cyto nods at Mmelville.
Redfieldt says 'its 9:30 here'
Mmelville says 'oh ok ill be fine its only 9:30 where i live'
Dolci says '10:30 in the east'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'think about children of wrath'
Cyto says 'children of'
Cyto says 'wrath'
Mmelville says 'what is wrath'
Redfieldt says 'extreme hate'
Cyto says 'reall roll that over'
Mmelville says 'soz im only in 8th grade'
Cyto says 'vengeance'
Marsuvees says 'Question'
Cyto says 'hate'
Mmelville says 'ok'
Baran says 'hatred, destructive hate.'
Marsuvees raises his hand in response.
Cyto nods at Marsuvees.
Mmelville says 'i have a question'
Mmelville says 'go ahead'
Marsuvees says 'So is it Children who produce wrath, or children produced by wrath, or Children destined for wrath?  Any of them are viable from the Greek...'
Cyto says 'OOOH'
Cyto says 'you know i wasn't thinking that way'
Baran says 'i think that all three are applicaple'
Cyto says 'i was thinking english'
Redfieldt says 'I go with the first one'
Cyto says 'children of Wrath'
Marsuvees says 'And give reasoning why you think such'
Redfieldt says 'brb'
Mmelville says 'i think the children of wrath are children of wraith because of other childer hating them or making them make bad decisions and when im hated sometimes i dont like that person that hates me'
Mmelville says 'thats just my oppinion'
Cyto nods.
Marsuvees says 'That has merit, but this verse says that it's in our nature'
Mmelville says 'icic'
Cyto says 'so if its in our nature'
Cyto says 'I would think Children of wrath'
Mmelville says 'then were going to hate???'
Marsuvees says 'So is it produced in us (by outside forces, such as other ppl), or is it a part of us?'
Dolci says 'cuz we are born in sin?'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Cyto says 'there are other places in the bible'
Baran says 'i think all 3. as sinners we have been produced by the hatred around us, in a lot of cases we produce more hatred wich feeds satans aims,and end up destined for hatred if we dont let go and give ourselves to the One who truly loves us'
Cyto says 'Jesus said that His children follow Him, the Pharisees were of Their father the devil'
Marsuvees nods at Cyto.
Mmelville says 'i have a q'
Marsuvees nods at Mmelville.
Cyto nods.
Cyto points excitedly at Mmelville!
Mmelville says 'are we supposed to hate all the people in hell or just the devil and the ppl in hell will they get a second chance to go to heaven for like the children in other countries that havent even heard of christ'
Mmelville says 'or once their in hell they stay forever?'
Cyto says 'Okay we're not supposed to hate anyone on earth'
Mmelville says 'i kno'
Mmelville says 'but their not on earth'
Mmelville says 'their in hell'
Baran says 'well biblically no one is in hell yet'
Marsuvees says 'I pity those in hell'
Mmelville says 'what???'
Baran says 'that will come after Christ's second coming'
Cyto says 'second as for children'
Marsuvees says 'There are differing views on that, Baran'
Cyto nods.
Mmelville says 'i thought ppl are already in hell'
Cyto says 'kinda depends on your definition of hell'
Baran says 'i dont see how there could be. its clearly there'
Baran says 'but ok'
Mmelville says 'that is why their is demons'
Cyto shakes his head no at Mmelville.
Mmelville says 'no....'
Cyto says 'demons are fallen angels'
Mmelville says 'then where did the demons come from'
Mmelville says 'they are?'
Cyto nods.
Redfieldt says 'yep'
Baran says 'from my understanding demons are no more in hell than Satan. they are in this world'
Mmelville says 'the only one i knew of was lusapher'
Christopher says 'there are people in hell'
Redfieldt says 'true baran'
Cyto says 'when lucifer fell he took a third of the angels with him'
Mmelville says 'well the ones in hell some of them its not their fault'
Cyto says 'these are the demons'
Mmelville says 'ok cyto'
Cyto says 'no one ends up in Hell for something that isn't their fault'
Mmelville says 'but what about some of the people in hell its not thir falut'
Redfieldt nods in enthusiastic agreement with Cyto.
Mmelville says 'noo noo noo'
Mmelville says 'not like that'
Marsuvees listens intently to Mmelville.
Mmelville says 'at my church it said something about a percentages'
Cyto says '???'
Redfieldt says 'explain more'
Mmelville says 'about childern in other countries that havent even heard the name jesus'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'ah okay the bible talks about that too'
Mmelville says 'so if they grew up with noone even knowing the name jesus how is it thier fault'
Mmelville says 'u see what im saying?'
Marsuvees says 'I do'
Mmelville nods.
Cyto says 'the bible says that everyone is responsible for knowing God'
Marsuvees says 'But I disagree'
Redfieldt says 'I hold a belief on an age of accountibility,'
Cyto says 'Because the very creation testifies to Him'
Mmelville says 'i do too but i dont '
Mmelville says 'because the bible is always right'
Christopher says 'creation declares the glory of god so that men are without excuse'
Cyto says 'but yes there are some things that point to an age of accountability'
Cyto nods at Christopher.
Baran says 'i know this is off track, but has age of accountability ever been defined?'
Redfieldt says 'not really'
Christopher says 'even if they have never heard of jesus, i believe men by nature have a conscience'
Marsuvees says 'Not as a specific time period'
Redfieldt says 'the line in which a person can tell between right and wrong?'
Marsuvees nods at Redfieldt.
Christopher says 'approximately 20'
Christopher says 'as in the old testament'
Redfieldt says 'for a normal child vs a mentally challenged adult ages vary'
Baran says 'i always figured the age in jewish tradition for a bar mitzfah'
Mmelville says 'icic but how will u kno what that consciene is saying if uve never heard the name jesus'
Christopher says 'those under twenty were not counted with the sins of their fathers'
Redfieldt says 'but we are not living under the law anymore'
Marsuvees sits down and thinks deeply.
Baran says 'i know that, i just use that as an indicator for age of accountability'
Redfieldt says 'nod'
Marsuvees says 'That was a specific case in Exodus, I believe?'
Mmelville says 'but i still dont get it'
Baran says 'not sure'
Christopher says 'true'
Marsuvees says 'Ok'
Cyto says 'okay hold on a sec'
Baran says 'I apologize i got us off track'
Mmelville says 'how can u be accountible if uve never even heard of it'
Marsuvees nods at Cyto.
Cyto says 'People are accountable to know there is a God'
Christopher says 'people have a conscience from the beginning'
Cyto says 'they should seek after him'
Cyto nods at Christopher.
Mmelville says 'for instance how can you be accountible if uve never heard jesus'
Mmelville says 'how can they seek something they dont kno is there?'
Christopher says 'a person who declares God I do not know who you are but I accept you exist, reveal yourself to me has salvation'
Cyto says 'if you know there is a God, you should seek him'
Mmelville says 'its like saying u go find saisdfh and come back'
Redfieldt says 'deep down inside they know there is a "god"'
Dolci says 'they know there is a creator'
Mmelville says 'u dont kno what im talking about because uve never heard of it'
Mmelville says 'u see what i mean?'
Cyto says 'the Bible says creation testifies to God's existense'
Cyto says 'I understand mmelville'
Mmelville nods.
Cyto says 'but what I'm saying is that People are accountable to obey,'
Cyto says 'Jesus died to save us from our sins'
Baran says 'agreed'
Cyto says 'so going to Hel is because we don't accept him'
Mmelville says 'to obey what to obey something theyve never seen or heard of him?'
Cyto says 'but we're not perfect'
Cyto says 'so God is justified in sending anyone to hell'
Christopher says 'whether we have heard of Jesus or not, our sinful nature condemns us to hell'
Mmelville says 'that stinks'
Cyto says 'People know right from wrong, even if they've never heard the bible'
Christopher says 'and people are not excused because of their CONSCIENCE'
Christopher says 'exactly cyto'
Cyto says 'maybe they won't know ALL of God's laws'
Cyto says 'or be CERTAIN'
Christopher says 'Those under the law are judged under the law'
Baran says 'the bible does say many are called, few are chosen'
Christopher says 'Those not under the law aren't judged by the law'
Cyto says 'everyone does SOMETHING in their lives that they know is wrong'
Christopher says 'But if they don't have the law but obey their conscience'
Christopher says 'They are more righteous than he who doesn't obey the law he has'
Mmelville nods.
Cyto says 'no one obeys though'
Cyto says 'except with the Spirit'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Mmelville says 'but they dont kno what a spirit is though right?'
Cyto says 'no'
Mmelville says 'so how can ur spirit use u if u dont kno its there'
Cyto says 'the Spirit can do anything it wants'
Mmelville says 'go on cyto'
Christopher says 'the spirit is with every person convicting them of sin'
Mmelville says 'icic'
Mmelville says 'ok'
Cyto says 'well I'm not sure'
Cyto says 'men sear their consciences'
Christopher says 'Jesus him self said...let me find the passage'
Cyto says 'and It seems in the bible that God abandons some to their sin after calling'
Marsuvees says 'My question to you, Mmel, would be this: How do you know that everyone truly seeking God has not or will not hear about Jesus?'
Redfieldt says 'which occurs after a saved person stops caring about obeying God and sears ther hearts and they choose to become unsaved'
~Verse to Room from Christopher~
John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
Mmelville says 'hang on'
Baran says 'isnt that more man's choice though? they say the believe but dont change thier lives in accordance with God's will, right?'
Mmelville says 'ok'
Cyto says 'Justice is that we all die Mmel'
Cyto says 'or fairness'
Mmelville says 'im not trying to prove u guys wrong i just was curious because i never understood that but ok icic now tyvm'
Cyto says 'Justice says that someone else can pay our price'
Cyto says 'don't get scared off'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Cyto says 'its okay to disagree'
Cyto says 'its okay to argue'
Cyto says 'we figure things out that way'
~Verse to Room from Christopher~
Ecclesiastes 3:11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
Mmelville says 'yes'
Baran says 'yeah we all have different backgrounds here'
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Baran says 'different denominations and none of them have all of it right'
Redfieldt agrees absolutely.
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Mmelville says 'aggreed'
Cyto says 'But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,'
Cyto says 'even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved ),'
Cyto says 'and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Marsuvees gives praise to The Creator.
Redfieldt says 'perfect time to stop'
Marsuvees smiles happily.
Mmelville smiles happily.
Cyto says 'Grace is unmerrited favor'
Mmelville says 'this was just getting good'
Cyto says 'the Glory of god'
Redfieldt says 'cyto wont stop'
Cyto says 'is predestinating us to salvation'
Christopher says 'CAN I SHARE SOMETHING?'
Cyto says 'not Just Salvation'
Mmelville says 'yes chris'
Marsuvees says 'If you won't yell, yes'
Cyto says 'but being a part of his plan'
Christopher says 'cyto...'
Mmelville says 'yes...'
Cyto says 'of putting his Spirit in us'
Christopher says 'here we go'
Mmelville says 'let him finish'
Mmelville says 'thats rude to inturrupt'
Wargreymon sighs.
Marsuvees says 'Keep it here ;)'
Cyto says 'even though we were sinners, he gave us a part of himself, cleansed us'
Redfieldt says 'God gives us a choice'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Cyto says 'and brought us toghether into something Glorious'
Redfieldt says 'to accept Jesus death as payment for sinning against God'
Redfieldt says 'if we don't accept Jesus then we go to hell'
Cyto says 'and count us Friends, co-workers'
Mmelville says 'that is not true red'
Cyto says 'give us a purpose'
Cyto says 'um it is'
Mmelville says 'jewish people can go to heaven cant they'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
1 Timothy 1:1-3 1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope; 2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord. 3 As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,
Redfieldt says 'not without accepting Jesus'
Mmelville says 'as long as they follow the rules'
Cyto says 'erm wrong verse'
Cyto says 'hold on'
Mmelville says 'jews dont believe in jesus'
Redfieldt says 'following the rules is impossible'
Mmelville says 'but they believe in god'
Cyto coughs loudly in Mmelville's general direction.
Cyto coughs loudly in Mmelville's general direction.
Mmelville says 'ok'
Mmelville says 'go ahead '
Cyto says 'um, you are TALKING to a Jew who believes in Jesus'
Mmelville says 'ur jewish?'
Cyto nods sagely.
Marsuvees grins mischievously.
Mmelville says 'i thought jews dont believe in jesus'
Mmelville says 'what is the difference then?'
Cyto says 'Real Jews praise Jesus'
Marsuvees enthusiastically high-five's Cyto!
Cyto enthusiastically high-five's Marsuvees!
Cyto giggles.
Cyto says 'Okay here's the deal'
Cyto says 'Jesus was a Jew'
Mmelville says 'i thought jews believe in god and gods sun but i thought they dont believe in jesus'
Cyto says 'God worked through Jews in the old testament'
Mmelville says 'i kno jesus was a jew because in his time'
Kendogarurumon says 'ah'
Mmelville says 'there was no jesus'
Cyto says 'God's plan was to use Jews as an example for the world'
Kendogarurumon says 'changed the way to get here'
Kendogarurumon grins mischievously.
Christopher says 'Jesus was a Jew'
Kendogarurumon says 'no more portals'
Christopher says 'The Jews are waiting for a MESSIAH'
Mmelville says 'he was a jew because before him there was no son of god'
Baran says 'itwas said in the bible that a prophet is never accepted in his own home'
Christopher says 'But the Messiah already came'
Cyto says 'Jesus was from the beginning'
Marsuvees gives Kendogarurumon a brotherly hug.
Mmelville says 'so he was raised as a jew but he was actually the sun of god'
Mmelville says 'god was from the begginning though'
Cyto says 'Jesus was From the Beginning'
Mmelville says 'i kno god is jesus'
Cyto nods at Mmelville.
Mmelville says 'havent you ever head of bc'
Cyto says 'Jews, many Jews rejected Jesus'
Mmelville says 'u kno the time of and before christ'
Cyto says 'but God ALWAYS preserves a remnant'
Christopher says 'Jesus is actually the Word of God manifested :P'
Redfieldt says 'bc is just a way of catorgoring time a human way'
Christopher says 'May I point something out?!?!?!'
Cyto says 'sure'
Christopher says 'this is M azing'
Christopher says 'Before Christ, you went to heaven/hell based on good works'
Mmelville says 'jesus was not really from the beggining i thought i kno god was there was god and the spirit but until god gave himself and came to earth there was no jesus'
Mmelville says 'yeah chris'
Christopher says 'Heaven was not really heaven but paradise'
Cyto shakes his head no at Mmelville.
Mmelville says 'i dont get that?'
Mmelville says 'to chris'
Baran says 'John chapter 1'
Redfieldt says 'the trinity God the father, God the son(jesus) God the Holy spirit have existed before time existed'
Christopher says 'Lets look at this'
Mmelville says 'i c what u mean'
Mmelville says 'then why did god say that he gave up all of his godly powers to come down to earth to die for our sins?'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
John 8:54-58 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: 55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Christopher says 'After ressurec. "paradise" stopped existing and hell was cleared out'
Marsuvees says 'We should prolly stick to one topic at a time, to avoid confusion'
Cyto nods.
Kendogarurumon says 'um'
Baran says 'yeah we have gone around from Ephesians a bit'
Baran smiles happily.
Marsuvees nods at Baran.
Christopher says 'Everyone agreeing so far?'
Kendogarurumon says 'i dont know chris'
Kendogarurumon says 'i just got here'
Marsuvees says 'I don't, sorry'
Christopher says ':P'
Kendogarurumon says 'im still trying to figure out whats going on'
Redfieldt says 'it's shakey chris'
Marsuvees says 'Let Cyto finish'
Cyto says 'okay dokey'
Christopher says 'its spiritual'
Marsuvees listens intently to Cyto.
Cyto says 'Before Abraham Was I AM'
Baran says 'i need to jet ppl. God bless'
Cyto says 'JEsus was saying he was before Abraham'
Mmelville says 'see ya'
Cyto says 'he said I Am'
Cyto says 'that is God's Name'
Redfieldt says 'I am out of here'
Christopher says 'Cyto, let me affirm something ur saying....'
Kendogarurumon says 'yup but bc... he existed but in heaven not here on earth'
Christopher says 'The leper said .. if you are willing to heal me'
Kendogarurumon says 'i think thats mmel was trying to say'
Kendogarurumon grins mischievously.
OOPS! Christopher did it again!
Christopher says 'oops'
Mmelville says 'then why did god say he gave up his godly powers when he was alredy 3 tyhings at onece'
Wargreymon sighs.
Christopher says 'jesus said IAM willing'
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Cyto says 'okay hold on Chris'
Mmelville says 'because jesus is god'
Christopher says '...end of comment'
Cyto says 'Jesus, gave up something'
Kendogarurumon nods.
Cyto says 'He still had power, apparently'
Wargreymon nods.
Kendogarurumon says 'aye...'
Cyto says 'He still had authority'
Cyto says 'Exactly what he gave is hard to see'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'He took on a human form'
Kendogarurumon says 'his immortality...'
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Kendogarurumon says 'by becoming god with flesh he gave up his inability to die'
Dolci says 'i gotta go....see you later'
Cyto gives Dolci a brotherly hug.
Cyto says 'Jesus was alway subject to His father'
Mmelville says 'what is the difference between a jew who believes in jesus than a christain?'
Cyto says 'though he was one'
Cyto says 'one topic'
Cyto says 'he did all things according to the father's will'
Mmelville says 'cyto i hate to break it to u but i think ur a christian ur ansestors may have been jews and that is why u say ur a jew but i think by ur own choices ur really a christian'
Kendogarurumon nods.
Cyto says 'well lets take a look at the bible'
Kendogarurumon says 'sorry fur face but i gota agree with mmel on this one'
Cyto says 'and stick to one topic at a time'
Kendogarurumon says 'you belive in the trinity... your a god fear whatwolf... id say you are a christian'
Marsuvees chuckles politely.
Kendogarurumon says 'god fearing rather'
Kendogarurumon says 'God fearing'
Kendogarurumon says 'third times a charm :)'
Marsuvees ruffles Kendogarurumon's hair playfully.
Cyto says 'okay well I did want to talk about Judaism'
Cyto says 'though i wanted to cover the trinity'
Christopher grabs Kendogarurumon in a head lock and NOOGIES her... ARGH!!!
Christopher says '... that was random...'
Christopher says 'hehehehe'
Cyto says 'Jesus was one with the Spirit'
Mmelville says 'cyto, Christ said he came to fulfill the law.  the followers of christ were jewish, they however became christians as a title to separate them from the past'
Kendogarurumon says 'ah no it wasnt chris...'
Cyto says 'ummmmm'
Kendogarurumon says 'that wasnt random at all... that was commenting on what mmel said :P'
Cyto says 'okay well lets see what the bible says about that Mmel'
Mmelville says 'both christians and jews believe in the tora'
Kendogarurumon says 'erg...'
Christopher says 'I do know that Paul would have given up his own salvation for the salvation of his people'
Kendogarurumon says 'actualy mmelville christians have he bible not the tora :P'
Mmelville says 'the first five books of the bible are the tora'
Kendogarurumon says 'the not he'
Kendogarurumon falls down laughing.
Kendogarurumon says 'right... and christians have more then the first five :P'
Cyto says 'okay mmel'
Christopher says 'Actually'
Cyto says 'okay mmel have you ever read romans'
Christopher says 'The Jewish Bible consists of the Old Testament'
Christopher says 'Some are just SO strict, they only acept the Torah'
Kendogarurumon says 'right chris... as mmel said... the first 5 books in the old testiment'
Mmelville says 'yes i have'
Christopher says 'Like the Pharsees and Saducees'
Marsuvees sits down and thinks deeply.
Marsuvees listens intently to Cyto.
Christopher says 'I just thought I would throw in a lil more confuzion :P'
Marsuvees coughs loudly in Christopher's general direction.
Marsuvees listens intently to Cyto.
Cyto requests everyone quiet down.  Shhhhhhhhhhh...
Wargreymon sighs.
Cyto says 'Okay romans talks about the position of Jews and Gentiles in the church and before God'
Cyto says 'Now Romans was written to Christians'
Cyto says 'in rome'
Kendogarurumon nods.
Cyto says 'there were both jews and gentiles'
Kendogarurumon says 'yup'
Mmelville says 'romans speaks to more than just christians, it addresses both christians and jews'
Mmelville says 'hey cyto my dad is helping me out with this one he is typing because he knows im not as smart as him he has read the whole bible and reads it everyday'
Cyto says 'that's okay'
Kendogarurumon grins mischievously.
Mmelville says 'so he is helping me out with the whole romans thing and that stuff'
Cyto says 'Hi Mmelville's dad'
Marsuvees waves happily.
Cyto says 'There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek,'
Mmelville says 'hi there :)'
Cyto says 'it doesn't say of the Jew first and then the Christian'
Cyto says 'this is talking to Christians, both Jew and Gentile, though the particular verse doesn't necessarily refer to Christians solely'
Mmelville says 'the only difference between the jew and christian is that Jesus was to the jew a stumbling block, allowing the gentiles to enter into the flock'
Cyto says 'but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.'
Mmelville says 'when christ returns, the jews will see him for who he is and accept him'
Cyto says 'that's not a difference between the jew and christian'
Cyto says 'that's a difference between the Jew and Non jew'
Cyto says 'A stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the gentiles (or greeks?)_'
Cyto says 'without any knowledge of God the concept of Jesus is utter foolishness'
Cyto says 'a stumbling block to the Jews though, Jesus totally went apart from their expectations'
Mmelville says 'that is true, the gentiles that believed became christians, as did the jews that believed'
Christopher says 'Plainly, I believe the Gentiles are a stumbling block to the jews'
Christopher says 'I will call a people not my people as though they were my people'
Mmelville says 'the jews couldn't accept that they knew where jesus came from and thought it was blasphemy that he would call himself the son of god'
Cyto says 'For there is no partiality with Go'
Cyto says 'For there is no partiality with God'
Mmelville says 'amen'
Cyto says 'God doesn't view Jews or Gentiles as better'
Cyto says 'that doesn't mean he doesn't have a unique plan for them'
Cyto says 'For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law'
Mmelville says 'that is true...but jews must live by the law instead of allowing jesus to pay the price for them'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves'
Cyto shakes his head no at Mmelville.
Mmelville says '?'
Wargreymon will be right back!
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Cyto says 'The Gospel is for EVERYONE'
Mmelville says 'what is christianity to you? maybe that is where i am confused'
Cyto says 'Christian  (little Christ)  Christianity should be group of those who emulate Christ'
Cyto says 'But if you bear the name "Jew " and rely upon the Law and boast in God, '
Cyto says 'But if you bear the name "Jew " and rely upon the Law and boast in God,'
Digimonlover nods.
Cyto says 'and know His will and approve the things that are essential, being instructed out of the Law,'
Cyto says 'and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,'
Cyto says 'a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of the immature, having in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth,'
Cyto says 'you, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself ? You who preach that one shall not steal, do you steal ?'
Mmelville says 'i believe in the law and by being a christian, i want to follow the law and live as morally as i can and do the works jesus did...'
Cyto says 'You who boast in the Law, through your breaking the Law, do you dishonor God ?'
Cyto says 'For "THE NAME OF GOD IS BLASPHEMED AMONG THE GENTILES BECAUSE OF YOU," just as it is written.'
Mmelville says 'everyone breaks the law'
Cyto nods sagely.
Cyto says 'For indeed circumcision is of value if you practice the Law'
Cyto says 'For indeed circumcision is of value if you practice the Law'
Cyto says 'For indeed circumcision is of value if you practice the Law, but if you are a transgressor of the Law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision.'
Cyto says 'So if the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision ?'
Cyto says 'And he who is physically uncircumcised, if he keeps the Law, will he not judge you who though having the letter of the Law and circumcision are a transgressor of the Law ?'
Christopher says 'Im going to get going, i fell like leveling.  God bless you all : )'
Cyto says 'For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly *, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh.'
Mmelville says 'that is why there is no difference between the jew and the gentile that believe in christ, they become christians'
Cyto says 'But he is a Jew who is one inwardly'
Cyto says 'But he is a Jew who is one inwardly and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter'
Cyto says 'But he is a Jew who is one inwardly and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter and his praise is not from men, but from God.'
Cyto says 'well what does this tell us'
Cyto says 'But he is a Jew who is one inwardly and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter and his praise is not from men, but from God.'
Cyto says 'so Being a Jew....what does that mean'
Cyto says 'What is a Jew'
Mmelville says 'if the holy spirit lives in you and reveals christ to you...you do not quit being a jew'
Mmelville says 'it just saves you from the tribulation to come, which god said would happen for the jew that didn't accept the savior'
Cyto says 'you're missing something'
Mmelville says 'i am sure i am missing a lot!'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Mmelville says 'i know i am no scholar'
Cyto says 'scholars miss plenty too'
Marsuvees agrees absolutely.
Cyto says 'a jew is one  who is one inwardly'
Cyto says 'Jews are those who keep the Law'
Cyto says 'what does the Life of the spirit in you enable you to do'
Mmelville says 'than so am i a jew? i keep the law, love the jewish people and love the law'
Cyto says '?'
Marsuvees says 'obey'
Cyto says 'Keep the law'
Cyto nods sagely at Marsuvees.
Cyto says 'Jews are God's Chosen people'
Marsuvees says 'Christ fulfills the law in us'
Cyto says 'Real Jews Love Jesus'
Cyto winks knowingly.
Marsuvees says 'A truism'
Cyto says 'a Jew is one who is one inwardly'
Cyto says 'Throughout history God always preserved a remnant'
Cyto says 'throughout history the Jews rebelled'
Cyto says 'were disobedient and abominable'
Marsuvees nods at Cyto.
Cyto says 'it was sad'
Cyto says 'is sad'
Mmelville says 'what were the apostles then, jews or christians?'
Cyto says 'Jews'
Cyto says 'and Christians'
Cyto says 'hold on Mmelvi'
Marsuvees says 'God's remnant'
Mmelville says 'k'
Cyto says 'If you read the OT, everywhere you look'
Cyto says 'People are disobeying God, sacrificing to other god's killing children raping, hating, evil'
Cyto says 'God got soo disgusted he wiped them all out by a flood'
Cyto says 'He sent his own people into captivity'
Cyto says 'Anything he could do to make them obey'
Cyto says 'see the evil'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Cyto says 'to turn to him with their hearts'
Cyto says 'nothing worked'
Cyto says 'throughout all that'
Cyto says 'he maintained a remnat'
Cyto says 'remnant'
Cyto says 'if he ever brought judgement he maintained some who wouldn't be killed'
Cyto says 'some who wouldn't worship other Gods'
Cyto says 'he'd always have some who loved him'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'that wouldn't be because of man's power, but because of God's power'
Cyto says 'with Christians it is the same'
Marsuvees agrees absolutely.
Cyto says 'the "christian" churches have become corrupted'
Cyto says 'a few remain who truly worship God'
Marsuvees agrees absolutely.
Cyto says 'with Jews too'
Cyto says 'many won't follow his Son'
Cyto says 'But he maintains a remnant'
Mmelville says 'so can i ask you this...do you think the jewish person that accepts jesus and follows what he said...do they still think it is only by their following of the law that they get into heaven?'
Marsuvees shakes his head no.
Cyto shakes his head no.
Cyto says 'not most of us'
Cyto says 'i mean to accept Jesus, you have to accept Jesus'
Cyto says 'knowing that nothing you can do is good enough'
Mmelville says 'wow, just when i thought i had it figured out'
Cyto says 'there are Messianics'
Mmelville says 'i know the church is corrupt'
Cyto says 'who feel that they are still supposed to follow the law'
Marsuvees sits down and thinks deeply.
Mmelville says 'i follow christ, not a man'
Cyto says 'and that they really aren't doing the right thing if they don't'
Mmelville says 'i read the bible for myself and teach my kids likewise'
*Yay!*  Go Mmelville!!!  Marsuvees cheers him on.
Mmelville says 'yes,that makes sense'
Cyto says 'even those acknowledge that they are saved by Jesus'
Cyto says 'not their own works'
Cyto says 'Heh'
Cyto says 'I forgot you were Mmelvile's dad'
Mmelville says 'then it sounds like a matter of semantics to me'
Mmelville says 'lol, yes'
Marsuvees chuckles politely.
Cyto says 'Mmelville has kids???!??!?'
Cyto giggles.
Mmelville says 'i am a christian not for any other reason than that is the 'title' placed on believing in jesus christ as my lord and savior'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto nods at Mmelville.
Marsuvees says 'It's true'
Marsuvees says 'Don't you love language?'
Mmelville says 'lol yes'
Cyto says 'don't you love manipulating people with language'
Marsuvees grins evilly.
Marsuvees lets out a triumphant muhah!
Mmelville says 'i wish i knew the greek and hebrew...i think i am missing out on some things by reading it in english'
Marsuvees says 'unfortunately, yes'
Marsuvees says 'It's a great study'
Marsuvees says 'If you can, I highly reccomend it'
Marsuvees says 'even if I can't spell recommend'
Mmelville says 'i know there are soo many words that just don't have a correct meaning in english, and they get watered down by our language and lack of words to describe '
Cyto says 'remember what the bible says about being called of Paul or of Appolos'
Marsuvees says 'English < most languages...sadly'
Cyto says 'there's a church I go to that won't give itself a name'
Marsuvees says 'Hmm'
Cyto says 'calls themself the Church in NY or the church in Phoenix'
Mmelville says 'thats interesting'
Marsuvees says 'Though it's difficult...because church is a title'
Cyto says 'well that's not as much of a problem with them'
Cyto says 'It talks about the Church in Rome in the bible'
Cyto says 'etc'
Marsuvees nods.
Marsuvees says 'Just being nit-picky ;)'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'with the greek and hebrew'
Cyto says 'the words have so many nuances'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'and are used in different contexts'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'that you can translate them'
Mmelville says 'that is just like the word 'light' in the bible'
Cyto says 'but each nuance is ahrd to get'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'how can we even know what all the cultural contexts were'
Mmelville says 'i have come to understand that in most places,it should be translated as power'
Marsuvees sits down and thinks deeply.
Christopher says 'hehe im back'
Marsuvees welcomes Christopher back.
Mmelville says 'otherwise, when christ said 'if the light that is in you be darkness, then the light of god is not in you'
Cyto says 'well I see certain places where that could work'
Christopher says 'is the "debate" still going on?'
Marsuvees says 'NOt really'
Marsuvees says 'Meet Mmelville's dad :)'
Cyto says 'except'
Marsuvees points excitedly at Mmelville!
Cyto says 'Jesus is the Light of the world'
Christopher says 'hehe'
Cyto says 'Satan is the Prince of the power of the air'
Cyto says 'the prince of this World'
Marsuvees says 'Light: phos, photos'
Cyto says 'Light has a different context'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'salt'
Cyto says 'Light shed's  illunination, visibility on the darkness'
Mmelville says 'yes, that is true...let me check something'
Mmelville says 'just the word translated 'light' has many different words in hebrew'
Marsuvees says 'I'm sure'
Marsuvees says 'HB and GK are different animals altogether'
Cyto says 'well look in nt'
Cyto says 'we have different words for light'
Cyto says 'Light'
Mmelville says 'oh wait, i was looking in nt, i meant greek'
Cyto says 'shining'
Cyto says 'Luminence'
Cyto says 'brightness'
Cyto says 'sparkle'
Cyto says 'electromagnetic waves'
Cyto says 'truth'
Cyto says 'Jesus'
Mmelville says 'Mt.6:22-23 the light of the body is the eye'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Matthew 6:22-23 22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Cyto says '"The eye is the lamp of the body'
Cyto says '"The eye is the lamp of the body so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light. Mt 6:23'
Mmelville says 'but if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.  if therefore the light that is in thee be darkness how great is that darkness'
Cyto says '"But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light that is in you is darkness, how great is the darkness !'
Marsuvees says 'brb'
Christopher says 'can anyone heal me?'
Mmelville says 'so 'light' in that context cannot mean actual light, it has to mean power or authority'
Cyto says 'er ask on qa'
Cyto says 'lemme see'
Cyto says 'hrm'
Cyto says 'so where did what gave you the thought about power'
Mmelville says 'because to say that if the light that is in you is darkness...that would mean there is no light in you...so you couldn't say there is light in them'
Cyto shakes his head no.
Mmelville says 'he would have said 'if you lack the light of god in you' or something to that affect'
Cyto says 'okay think of it this way'
Cyto says 'when the spirit of God resides in you'
Cyto says 'you overflow with spirit'
Cyto says 'you Emanate Spirit'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Cyto says 'when the spirit of the Prince of the Power of the Air is in you you emanate too'
Cyto says 'brb'
Cyto says 'so anyway'
Cyto says 'you could see it like power'
Cyto says 'but light'
Cyto says 'in as much as it Emanates'
Cyto says 'and it shines on things'
Cyto says 'people see who you are'
Mmelville says 'no, because darkness doesn't eminate'
Cyto says 'people see who they are'
Cyto says 'Yes it does'
Mmelville says 'and christ said if the light that is in you'
Cyto says 'physical darkness no'
Cyto says 'spiritual darkness'
Mmelville says 'it is calling the light darkness'
Cyto shudders at the horror and represses tears.
Cyto says 'yeah I've felt that'
Cyto says 'were you ever around a perso, that was into such bad stuff that you just felt like .......you were in a bad place'
Mmelville says 'just like in the beginning...gen 1:3 god says 'let there be light''
Mmelville says 'but he didn't create the sun yet'
Cyto says 'hrm?'
Mmelville says 'it should maybe translated as "order"'
Marsuvees sits down and thinks deeply.
Mmelville says 'and darkness should be "chaos"'
Marsuvees sits down and thinks deeply.
Cyto says 'that's getting a tad, libertarian'
Marsuvees says 'Never heard it quite like that'
Marsuvees shrugs helplessly.
Mmelville says 'i dn't understand'
Marsuvees says 'I always took it to be light *shrug*'
Mmelville says 'how can it be light if the sun hadn't been created?'
Cyto says 'vegetation is mentioned being created after the lights'
Cyto says 'I mean'
Cyto says 'the lights were mentioned being created after vegetation'
Cyto says 'Not sure you can take it in strict order'
~Verse to Room from Marsuvees~
Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Marsuvees says 'That is, if you take this verse literally'
Cyto says 'hrm well its an interesting point of view'
Cyto says 'but we really have to look at the context of the verse'
Cyto says 'you get something looking at it as light or power'
Mmelville says 'it will give me something to study more'
Cyto says 'though as light'
Cyto says 'it gives the added connotation of truth'
Cyto says 'revelation'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Cyto says 'light has a lot of connotations'
Cyto says 'power, limited'
Cyto says 'okay lets pray'
Marsuvees smiles happily.
Cyto pokes Marsuvees in the ribs.
Mmelville says 'yes it does...that is the neat thing about the bible...there are so many ways that it connects with itself'
Mmelville says 'what an amazing book'
Cyto nods.
Marsuvees nods.
Mmelville says 'ok'
Marsuvees says 'Father God, I thank you for this time you have given to us'
Cyto says 'Yes'
Marsuvees says 'The opportunity to look into your Word, to talk about the omnipotent and omniscient God...it's incredible'
Marsuvees says 'Thank you for the fellowship among believers, the bond you create, and the wisdom you give'
Mmelville says 'Father, we ask that you fill each and every person here with your wisdom and knowedge...that they might go forth and be a light in the world for you Father'
Marsuvees nods.
Marsuvees softly says amen.
Cyto says 'Yes Lord'
Marsuvees says 'Lord, reveal yourself to us more, allow us to know you a little more, and then to imitate you'
Cyto says 'God Please keep us close'
Marsuvees says 'May the words of our mouths and the meditations of our hearts be pleasing unto you, oh God'
Cyto says 'Keep us in You'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'Yes Lord'
Cyto says 'Hide your word in our hearts Lord'
Cyto says 'Our redeemer, our wisdom'
Marsuvees nods.
Cyto says 'Help us in all things and keep us as one this week, in unity and love'
Marsuvees says 'amen'
Cyto says 'Bless us lord, help us and heal us'
Cyto says 'In your Holy precious Name we pray god'
Cyto softly says amen.
Mmelville says 'amen'
Marsuvees boldly proclaims 'Amen!'