Bible Study log
Hatfield sincerely apologizes.
Japhez says 'Yeah, I am afraid after my college homework my brain just shut off :P'
Cyto says 'also like a very intelligent person i forgot to turn on the studylog'
Cyto bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
Cyto says 'well i took care of it now'
Hatfield says 'well so much for me catching up on the log'
Cyto says 'we waited for you'
Cyto says 'the question we're looking at is How this Glorifies God'
Cyto says '?'
Hatfield scuffs his foot in the dirt, looking very sheepish.
Hatfield says 'well I'll apologize to anyone reading the log, but I say we just move on from here'
Cyto says '3:14 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, 3:15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name, 3:16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, 3:17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith'
Cyto says 'and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 3:18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 3:19 and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God. 3:20 Now to Him who is able to do far more abundantly beyond all that we ask or think, according to the power that works within us, 3:21 to Him be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus to all generations'
Cyto says 'okay well any clue how this show's God's Glory?'
Hatfield says 'well it glorifies God because it recognizes that He is the source of all blessings and such'
Cyto nods.
Hatfield says 'he is the headwater of the River of Life as it were'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'The amazingness of the blessings'
Cyto says 'of what he's done'
Cyto says 'and is doing'
Cyto says 'the Love of the Body'
Cyto says 'Being one with the Living God'
Cyto says 'being the full representation of the living God'
Hatfield says 'and has been prophesied to do in the future'
Cyto says 'us who were degenerate sinners'
Cyto says 'Paul says this is why he this lowly sinner was chosen'
Cyto says 'Paul was a pharisee, but he was one who persecuted the church'
Hatfield says 'Aye, and participated in the active hunting of the early church's members'
Cyto says 'It was his honor to be given the duty of preaching the Unfathomable riches of Christ'
Cyto says 'think about that word'
Hatfield says 'unfathomable?'
Cyto nods.
Hatfield says 'sailor's term, meant that the water was deeper than there was any means to measure'
Cyto says 'in the greek'
Cyto says 'it is defined as cannot be searched out'
Cyto says 'or comprehended'
Cyto says 'so think about it'
Hatfield says 'Aye, either works though'
Cyto says 'the Riches of Christ'
Cyto says 'are soo good they cannot be searched out or Comprehended'
Japhez says 'Mean's Christ is awefully rich'
Cyto says 'Paul this murderor was given the honor of preaching them'
Cyto says 'to glorify God'
Cyto says 'How does that work?'
Hatfield says 'While it was an honor for him, I've often heard it said that preachers and prophets are not chosen, they're driven'
Hatfield says 'and I think Paul was a bit of both'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'It is part of the riches of God'
Hatfield says 'he could no less preach God's Salvation than we could choose to NOT breathe'
Cyto says 'that This sinner can be redeemed to show god's Riches'
Karatemack says 'what do you mean by that Hat?'
Cyto says 'That God is the Power that gives him the Power to Show God's power'
Hatfield says 'slightly misworded'
Hatfield says 'Paul could no more choose NOT to preach, than we could choose not to breathe'
Hatfield says 'he was driven, God had chosen the greatest of His Son's persecutors to be the witness to the world, just my opinion, but I think in part to say "If HE can see the truth of My Son's salvation, then know that it is truth indeed"'
Hatfield says 'It'd be like Lee Iacocca doing commercials for GM'
Cyto giggles.
Cyto says 'er what company is Lee iacocca with'
Hatfield says 'Chrysler'
Hatfield says 'CEO for like 30+ years'
Cyto nods.
Hatfield says 'with that gents, I'm heading out'
Hatfield says 'have a blessed night'
Hatfield bows deeply.
Cyto says 'peace hatty'
Karatemack nods.
Karatemack smiles happily.
Hatfield says 'helps to stand before recalling'
Cyto says 'well Hatty's going to mis the poin'
Hatfield scuffs his foot in the dirt, looking very sheepish.
Cyto says 'point'
Cyto giggles.
Cyto says 'so anyway'
Cyto says 'God's Glory is shown in the Body of Christ , totally Powered by God, In paul, in the Love, In the forgiveness'
Cyto says 'in God's plan'
Cyto says 'In God having a purpose for even these sinners'
Cyto says 'In God making us part of His family'
Cyto says 'not merely forgiveness'
Cyto says 'but bringing us in as Son's Brothers!'
Japhez cheers and sings... he is just BURSTING with joy!
Cyto says 'God's Glory is shown in all these things'
Japhez nods.
Cyto says '3:14 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, 3:15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name, 3:16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, 3:17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith, and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 3:18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 3:19 and to know the love of Chr'
Cyto says '3:19 and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God. 3:20 Now to Him who is able to do far more abundantly beyond all that we ask or think, according to the power that works within us, 3:21 to Him be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus to all generations'
Japhez says 'Sounds like it should be followed by an "Amen"'
Cyto says 'yes'
Cyto says 'But'
Cyto says 'its actually followed by something else'
Cyto says 'who can guess?'
Cyto says 'read that like 3 times'
Cyto says 'I want you to take it in'
Japhez says 'Am I guessing what follows it?'
Cyto says 'If you read it and felt it'
Cyto says 'okay did you really feel it?'
Japhez says 'More at least, I'm sure I could feel more'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'okay guess'
Japhez says 'for ever and ever? :P'
Cyto shakes his head no at Japhez.
Cyto says 'Get ready'
Cyto waits patiently.
Cyto waits patiently.
Cyto whistles appreciatively.
Cyto says 'Therefore'
Cyto beams broadly at nothing in particular.
Cyto nods sagely.
Japhez says 'Ah, full circle'
Cyto giggles.
Cyto says 'chapter 4'
Cyto says 'is building on before'
Japhez says 'Sneaky, like a novel'
Cyto says 'so appreciating this book'
Japhez says 'Lead you up to the next one'
Cyto says 'we really want to understand the whole of what came before'
Cyto says 'it makes it hard'
Cyto says 'Paul writes these long chapters'
Cyto says 'and sentences'
Cyto says 'keep it all in mine'
Cyto says 'mind'
Japhez says 'Start at the beginning, eh?'
Cyto says '4:1 Therefore I, the prisoner of the Lord, implore you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called, 4:2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love, 4:3 being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.'
Karatemack says 'so, because God did all this for us, we should show love to one another'
Cyto says 'yes Love each other'
Japhez gasps in astonishment.
Cyto says 'there are some shades to that'
Cyto says 'Because God did all this for us'
Cyto says 'but why else?'
Karatemack says 'because God empowers us to?'
Cyto says 'why else'
You hear a raspy contemplative sound come from Japhez. Hmmmm.
Karatemack says 'we're commanded to?'
Cyto says 'well thats true'
Karatemack says 'to bring more glory to God?'
Cyto says 'what would happen ..'
Cyto points excitedly at Karatemack!
Cyto must like Karatemack a great deal to beam at him so broadly!
Karatemack smiles happily.
Cyto says 'We are God's representatives'
Cyto says 'The church is the expression of God'
Cyto says 'people see us,'
Japhez says 'We've been quite the frown, eh?'
Cyto says 'That's what God must be like'
Cyto says 'God is soooo good'
Cyto says 'I want to cry he's soo good'
Cyto says 'TDhere is soooo much we have , that he gives us'
Japhez nods.
Cyto says 'Unfathomable'
Cyto says 'He gives us power'
Cyto says 'and wisdom'
Cyto says 'and unity'
Cyto says 'and love'
Cyto says 'for each other'
Cyto says 'for people we don't even know'
Cyto says 'he Gives us Power'
Cyto says 'words'
Cyto says 'Gifts'
Cyto says 'anything we need to do his Will'
Cyto says 'We could be so much'
Cyto says 'have so much blessing'
Cyto says 'and love'
Cyto says 'and joy'
Cyto says 'riches'
Cyto says 'we choose to have a pale trickle'
Cyto says 'and take in sewage'
Cyto says 'people say that must be Christianity'
Japhez sighs.
Cyto says '4:1 Therefore I, the prisoner of the Lord, implore you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called, 4:2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love, 4:3 being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.'
Cyto says 'look at that last verse'
Japhez says 'Preserve unity of the Spirit in peace?'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'He does want us to love each other'
Cyto says 'but this is specific'
Cyto says 'what does that mean preserve the unity of the spirit'
You hear a raspy contemplative sound come from Japhez. Hmmmm.
Japhez says 'Tough question, how far does the term unity go?'
Cyto says 'VERY far'
Karatemack says 'do what you have to to get along'
Cyto shakes his head no at Karatemack.
Cyto says 'that's part of it'
Cyto says 'this kind of unity is special'
Cyto says 'we're not talking about a team'
Cyto says 'we're not talking about a family'
Cyto says 'in a normal earthly sense'
Japhez says 'It's not just being aligned in terms of goals, eh?'
Cyto says 'though we are a family'
Cyto shakes his head no at Japhez.
Cyto says 'not at all'
Cyto says 'we are one body'
Cyto says 'that is more literal than is usually read in'
Cyto says 'you can read the logs for the last three studies'
Cyto says 'hrm'
Cyto says 'maybe more'
Cyto says 'we died in our sins'
Cyto says 'we were dead'
Cyto says 'how did we become alive'
Cyto says 'We were raised with Christ'
Cyto says 'In Christ'
Cyto says 'Our salvation is IN Christ'
Cyto says 'Because we have no salvation without Christ'
Cyto says 'Christ has authority to forgive sins'
Cyto says 'because He paid for him'
Cyto says 'therefore'
Cyto says 'when we accept Him'
Cyto says 'the Gift'
Cyto says 'we enter Him'
Lilis gallantly tips his hat.
Cyto smiles happily.
Cyto says 'say We are part of Christ'
Cyto says 'are Raised with Him'
Cyto says 'we have no salvation without Him'
Cyto says 'We are one body and continue to be a part of Him'
Cyto says 'Christ wants us to be one with him as he Is one with the Father'
Cyto says 'He is in the Father and The Father Is in Him'
Cyto says 'We are In Christ and He is in us'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Cyto says 'Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.'
Cyto says 'Ro 7:4Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.'
Lilis says 'brb'
Cyto says 'Ro 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.'
Cyto says '1Co 15:15 Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised.'
Cyto says '1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless'
Cyto says '1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless you are still in your sins.'
Cyto says 'Ro 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.'
Cyto says '1Co 15:15 Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised.'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Ephesians 1:20-23
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Cyto says 'Eph 2:6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,'
Cyto says 'we are raised WITH Christ'
Cyto says 'Both Jew and Gentile were dead in our sins'
Cyto says 'We were redeemed by the Same Man'
Cyto says 'We were adopted by the Same Father'
Cyto says 'The Body of Christ is one Body'
Cyto says 'The Body of Christ'
Cyto says 'the Church is the Bride of Christ'
Cyto says 'not Brides'
Cyto says 'Bride'
Cyto says 'we are a family'
Cyto says 'God does have a purpose'
Cyto says 'but more than that'
Cyto says 'we are all part of each other'
Cyto says 'What's really amazing'
Cyto says 'God Gave His spirit'
Cyto says 'and poured it out on believers'
Cyto says 'our dead Spirit is replaced'
Cyto says 'In us'
Cyto says 'God Puts HIS Spirit'
Cyto says 'We have ONE Spirit'
Cyto says 'Billions of people'
Cyto says 'One Spirit'
Cyto says 'so'
Cyto says 'yeah We are one'
Cyto says 'and Unity'
Cyto says 'is more than being nice to each other and not fighting'
Cyto says 'the unity of the believers is Precious'
Cyto says 'delicate'
Japhez nods.
Cyto says 'and can be sooo much'
Japhez says 'Lots of potential'
Cyto says 'as people sharing one spirit'
Cyto says 'we are supposed to be lead by the direction of the spirit'
Cyto says 'the Amish, plymouth brethren, and local churches, took this somewhere'
Cyto says 'you wouldn't expect'
Cyto says 'services there are supposed to be lead by the Spirit'
Cyto says 'people may come to church with nothing prepared'
Cyto says 'and feel lead to share'
Cyto says 'there is no pastor'
Cyto says 'The people are lead by God'
Cyto says 'in services like that'
Cyto says 'people often feel God has a specific message'
Cyto says 'not breaking unity'
Cyto says 'would b not saying something of yourself'
Cyto says 'but speaking according to the direction of the Spirit'
Cyto says 'sometimes you'll walk into a situation, not in church'
Cyto says 'where you notice something special'
Cyto says 'There's a working of the Spirit'
Japhez nods.
Cyto says 'we should be continually asking God'
Cyto says 'what Should I be doing'
Cyto says 'and try not to disrupt'
Cyto says 'sometimes you'll feel a leading and you won't know why'
Cyto says 'the more I live'
Cyto says 'I want to bonk myself when i don't listen'
Lilis nods.
Japhez nods.
Cyto says 'I may get in trouble'
Cyto says 'more importantly'
Cyto says 'it won't be glorifying to God'
Cyto says 'It can be hard to hear the spirit'
Cyto says 'but if you develop your relationship'
Cyto says 'and ask'