Bible Study log
Cyto says 'last few chapters'
Cyto says 'what's it talkinga about'
Cyto says 'anyone?'
You hear a raspy contemplative sound come from Kaytone. Hmmmm.
Kaytone says 'I'm looking over it'
Cyto says 'in the beginning of the lesson?'
Kaytone says 'Hrm?'
Cyto says 'mentioned in the beginning of the lesson'
Miele says 'the fruits of the spirit?'
Cyto shakes his head no.
Kaytone says 'Oh! Because we're a prisoner to Him, and so we have to believe in Him because he is way smarter and way bigger than us.'
Hatfield says 'and gooder'
Cyto says 'yes, but not what i was going for'
Cyto says 'Ephesians deals with the Unity of the Body'
Cyto says 'in itself'
Cyto says 'and to God'
Cyto says 'soooo'
Cyto says 'where does Humility fit it'
Kaytone says 'We're one with God?'
Cyto says 'fit in'
Cyto nods at Kaytone.
Kaytone says 'I mean, is that the answer?'
Cyto shakes his head no.
Cyto says 'God is in us and we are in him'
Cyto says 'but not the answer'
Cyto says 'If we want to be one with God'
Cyto says 'we need to acknowledge him be humble'
Hatfield says 'without humility, we're thinking that we are smarter than God.  We cannot have any relationship with God (or just about anyone else really) if we cannot put others needs first'
Cyto says 'and our fellow man too'
Cyto says 'if we think that we're more important than our fellow believers'
Cyto says 'than we'll be fighting with them'
Cyto says 'and bickering over things that don't matter'
Cyto says 'remembering that we are all dead in sin'
Cyto says 'but raised in Christ'
Cyto says 'and reborn'
Cyto says 'we remember we are all on the same level'
Cyto says 'and all servants'
Cyto says 'fellow servants of a Giant God who wants us to all be united'
Cyto says 'Who died so we could be united with him'
Kaytone says 'Jesus'
Cyto says 'Humility demands we remember that sacrifice'
Cyto says 'say to be not humble to our fellow believers, to not be humble to Christ to not seek unity is dishonoring'
Cyto says 'dishonoring that sacrifice'
Cyto says 'what y'all think about that?'
Kaytone says 'I think it sort of is like what I say about revenge. Revenge is saying you don't trust God to make people give an account. You're saying not having humility is saying you don't trust God to do what is right, because you think you're better. Unless I misunderstood what you've been saying.'
Cyto says 'that'
Cyto says 'also'
Cyto says 'God asked to do this'
Cyto says 'He died for us'
Kaytone says 'So we owe it to him?'
Cyto says 'not doing this'
Cyto says 'is like we're saying we're better than the people we're not seeking unity with'
Cyto says 'that we're more important'
Cyto says 'we're all in the same position before God'
Cyto says 'we do owe him'
Cyto says 'in addition to which'
Cyto says 'as people who have all been saved'
Cyto says 'in the same man'
Cyto says 'and i Mean IN'
Cyto says 'We are all part of one family'
Cyto says 'we all have a Destiny'
Cyto says 'we all have a mission'
Cyto says 'One mission'
Cyto says 'The thing God did was soooo Big'
Cyto says 'The destiny he chose us for from before time is sooooo big'
Cyto says 'our arguments are sooooooo small'
Cyto says 'screaming and shouting, making tears, and anger'
Cyto says 'for something that doesn't matter'
Cyto says 'when we have this thing that matters SOOOOOOOO much'
Cyto says 'Humility reminds us'
Cyto says 'that we are all one'
Cyto says 'How we are all one'
Cyto says 'we all serve one'
Cyto says 'are Chosen by one'
Cyto says 'and that that One is perfect'
Cyto says 'so much more than we'
Hatfield says 'forgive me friends, but its a wee bit late for me'
Hatfield says 'goodnight'
Cyto says 'He wants sooo much Good'
Hatfield bows deeply.
Cyto gives Hatfield a brotherly hug.
Cyto encompasses Hatfield in an ENORMOUS bearhug!
Hatfield happily waves goodbye.
Cyto says 'Humility  gives us the right perspective'
Cyto says 'ummm'
Cyto says 'okay is that better?'
Kaytone nods.
Cyto smiles happily.
Cyto says 'okay'
Cyto says 'well does anyone have anything else to add'
Kaytone says 'Humility shows us how we're supposed to be? Because God shows us through our humility?'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'Gentleness Friday'
Cyto says 'anyone wanna close in prayer'
Kaytone says 'May I make a request for a future lesson?'
Cyto nods.
Kaytone says 'Self control'
Kaytone says 'How to get it'
Cyto says 'great question'
Cyto says 'you might be better off asking someone who already has achieved it'
Kaytone grins mischievously.
Kaytone says 'There is such a person?'
Cyto says 'accountability partners help a lot'
Cyto says 'focussing on God more'
Cyto says 'I hate to say it'
Cyto says 'but pray and read your bible'
Cyto says 'strive with dilligence'
Cyto says 'I'd recommend a book Be Ye Transformed'
Cyto says 'my self control comes a lot from being beat down by life, and knowing consequences'
Cyto says 'and even there i'm far from perfect'
Cyto says 'seth'
Cyto says 'any thoughts'
Kaytone waves to Seth.
Cyto says 'one of the most useful things I've found is giving up'
Cyto says 'surrendering to God'
Cyto says 'we get our power from God'
Cyto says 'we don't have power in ourselves, to really be good people'
Kaytone nods.
Cyto says 'so I pray to God and i say'
Cyto says 'I can't do this'
Cyto says 'If its going to happen you're going to have to do this for me'
Cyto says 'I need discipline'
Cyto says 'I need desire'
Cyto says 'I need force'
Cyto says 'to move'
Cyto says 'So please give me those things cuz i have none of them'
Cyto says 'at least enough'
Cyto says 'So I'm going to stop acting like its all me, and I'm just going to mention that you promised that he wo began a Good work in me would be faithful to complete it'
Cyto says 'and that You give liberally to all who Ask'
Cyto says 'and that this is one of the fruits of the Spirit'
Cyto says 'and that you are asking'
Cyto says 'So I'm just going to wait on you and be confident that You'll keep your promise'
Cyto says 'in the mean time I'll try, but I'm relying on you to bring me to where I need to be'
Cyto says 'and then stop sweatting it'
Cyto says 'If you're not perfect, , well God will work it out'
Cyto says 'He will sanctify you over time'
Cyto says 'keep trying'
Cyto says 'but don'
Cyto says 't have a cow'
Kaytone blinks innocently.
Kaytone says 'don't have a cow?'
Cyto nods.
Kaytone says 'what's that mean?'
Cyto says 'go nuts'
Kaytone says 'ahh, ok'
Cyto says 'if a woman were giving birth to a cow'
Cyto says 'imagine the amount of pain involved'
Kaytone falls down laughing.
Kaytone nods.
Cyto says 'Have confidence that God will take you accordint to His desire'
Cyto says 'Just try to obey the best you can'
Cyto says 'He said he reveals himself to those who do his will'
Cyto says 'so you try to do his will, to your ability'
Kaytone nods.
Cyto says 'you'll see he'll give you more ability'
Kaytone says 'Like the thing where it says "Well done ye good and grateful servant ...... You have done well with these, and I will give you more." Or whatever the right wording is?'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'it doesn't mean you dont' strive'
Cyto says 'remember its like a race'
Cyto says 'paul said no one wins who doesn't train'
Kaytone nods.
Cyto says 'run to win'
Cyto says 'but don't think its all on you'
Cyto says 'its all on God'
Cyto says 'you know the word Paraclete'
Cyto says '?'
Kaytone says 'How do we know the balance? I mean, if it's all on God, how do we do anything? But if we don't do anything, faith without works is dead.'
Kaytone says 'And no, I don't :('
Cyto says 'its not balance'
Cyto says 'Paraclete is the Holy spirit'
Cyto says 'its a comforter, a counselor'
Cyto says 'one who's always with you, giving you counsel, power'
Cyto says 'He's with you no matter where you God'
Cyto says 'He's the one who gives you the ability'
Cyto says 'when you're in a situation talk to him'
Cyto says 'try to pray'
Cyto says 'and invite him to take over'
Cyto says 'listen'
Cyto says 'its all God'
Cyto says 'God provides all the power'
Cyto says 'You try your best'
Cyto says 'it all comes from God everything that's Good'
Cyto says 'except'
Cyto says 'when you are relying on your self, you think its you'
Cyto says 'you think you HAVE to do it'
Cyto says 'lots of guilt when you fail'
Kaytone says 'Isn't He the one who also gives you action? I guess I just really get super confused about the whole thing of Him pre-ordaining everything. I mean, one, we don't choose Him, but He chooses us. I understand that part sort of. But does that also mean He tells us when to pray and when to do what?'
Cyto says 'remember The spirit in you is the one who gives you power'
Cyto says 'well we do choose him'
Cyto says 'but we wouldn't'
Cyto says 'if he hadn't'
Cyto says 'he says pray without ceasing'
Cyto says 'the Paraclete in you'
Cyto says 'life works better if you're asking for his leading all the time'
Kaytone frowns at himself.  What a sad puppy....
Cyto says 'praying'
Cyto says 'singing hymns'
Cyto says 'go to a better place'
Kaytone says 'I g2g :( May we talk more about it tomorrow? Will you be here?'
Cyto says 'when people deal with you'
Cyto says 'God has brought you to a better place, and you have more of him to deal with them'
Cyto says 'I'll try to be'
Kaytone says 'Thanks :)'
Cyto says 'bible study at church'
Kaytone nods.
Cyto says 'later in evening though'
Kaytone says '8ish?'