Bible Study log
Branduin says 'ok hatty wanna open us?'
Hatfield nods.
Dolci says 'don't forget the log'
Branduin beams a smile at Dolci.
Branduin thanks Dolci heartily.
Dolci smiles happily.
Branduin beams a smile at Dolci.
Branduin says, "Let's pray." and bows her head in prayer.
Hatfield says 'Father God, as we prepare to receive your teaching, I ask that you bless Branduin and the message that she has for us.'
Clairee nods.
Branduin nods.
Hatfield says 'as the song says "Open our ears Lord and help us to listen; Open our eyes Lord, we want to see Jesus."'
Clairee says 'Yes, Lord!'
Hatfield says 'Lord, I ask your blessings upon all the players who come on tonight, for whatever reason. But I especially ask your blessings upon those who come seeking knowledge of You.'
Branduin nods.
Hatfield says 'I ask these in Your precious and holy name'
Hatfield says 'Amen'
Clairee softly says amen.
Branduin boldly proclaims 'Amen!'
Branduin flips head over heels.
Dolci says 'amen'
~Verse to Room from Branduin~
James 3:1-8
1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
3 Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.
4 Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
Branduin says 'last week we began chapter 3 of james'
Branduin says 'it can convict alot of us'
Branduin says 'it is about how we say what we say'
Branduin nods sagely.
Branduin says 'the tongue is one thing that can build people up or tear them down'
Clairee nods.
Branduin says 'and we have to be careful how we say what we say'
Branduin nods sagely.
Branduin says 'it continues with verse 9'
Branduin nods at Hatfield.
Dolci says 'but sometimes it isn't what is said it is what is heard'
~Verse to Room from Hatfield~
James 3:9
Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
Branduin says, 'ooOOooOOooOOoo.'
Branduin says 'yes we are only responsible for what we say and how we say it'
Branduin says 'and if it is misconstured to make amends as soon as possible'
Branduin says 'and sometimes that means keeping our mouth firmly shut '
Clairee says 'such is the case in the cyber world.'
Hatfield nods in enthusiastic agreement with Clairee.
Branduin nods at Hatfield.
~Verse to Room from Hatfield~
James 3:10
Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Branduin says 'notice that these verses say that our mouth is what curses and blessings come from'
Clairee nods.
Branduin says 'ya'll will get a kick outt a this'
Branduin says '[3] Seth tells you 'this is an interesting subject for you to be speaking on....''
Clairee chuckles politely.
Branduin pats Seth on his head.
Branduin says 'and he is right'
Branduin says 'me and my big mouth get me into lots of trouble'
Clairee points at herself, obviously very confused.
Hatfield says 'who'd have thought *wink*'
Clairee says 'me too!'
Branduin says 'but it is common to man for that to happen especially in a cyber environmnet'
Clairee grins mischievously.
Branduin says 'that is why in chapter 2 i think it was that james said it is best to ......'
Branduin says 'not talk so much when we are angry'
Clairee agrees absolutely.
Branduin says 'let me look for that verse'
Redfieldt says 'James 4:19'
~Verse to Room from Branduin~
James 1:19
Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
Redfieldt says 'oops'
Branduin nods at Redfieldt.
Branduin says 'yeah ch 1'
Hatfield says 'we haven't gotten to 4 yet bro'
Branduin says 'swift to hear!'
Branduin says 'SLOW to speak'
Redfieldt says 'I misread the verse search'
Branduin says 'and very slow to wrath'
Clairee nods.
Dolci says 'uh oh'
Hatfield says 'think class will take a momentary break'
Clairee beams a smile at Hatfield.
Wargreymon nods.
Clairee says 'Time for pie! or pudding or somethin!:)'
Clairee says 'Yum! Jello pudding!'
Wargreymon sighs, "Mmmmmmmmmmmm."
Redfieldt says 'some lime jello sounds good'
Redfieldt says 'or cherry'
Redfieldt says 'actually'
Valhalla says 'hello'
Redfieldt says 'strawberry'
Clairee says 'its fat free too!'
Hatfield says 'greetings Valhalla'
Redfieldt says 'and I use the sugar free one'
Seth beams a smile at Valhalla.
Valhalla says 'only Val, thanks!'
Hatfield says 'Branduin will return shortly, but class is taking a break as she has lost her link'
Valhalla says 'just passing ...'
Redfieldt says 'the wabbits pc forze'
Redfieldt says 'froze'
Hatfield says 'fwoze'
Hatfield nods sagely.
Seth says 'just go on without her, redf take over, i think the theme is loose lips sink ships'
Redfieldt says 'pfft'
Clairee raises an eyebrow at Seth's weird actions.
Hatfield says 'but, she's the one that has a clue where she's going with it'
Redfieldt says 'yep its a good chapter but I couldn't finish her ideas on the topic'
Valhalla says 'mm what's the topic today?'
Redfieldt says 'James 3'
Valhalla says 'errr, don't know what's this'
Hatfield says 'which is speaking of the value of being truthful in what you say, and when you make a mistake, making amends for your action'
Clairee nods at Hatfield.
Redfieldt says 'verses 1 through 13 are about human nature and the tongue'
Redfieldt says '13-18 are on two diffrent kinds of wisdom'
Hatfield says 'and before Brandi went down, we were discussing verse 10'
Valhalla says 'similar topic like last week?'
~Verse to Room from Hatfield~
James 3:10
Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Hatfield says 'Aye, a continuation of sorts.'
Valhalla nods.
Dolci hugs Jazmine.
Jazmine says 'stupid computer sorry ya'll'
Hatfield says 'ok she's back, now stop that'
Valhalla kisses Jazmine's hand. How continental!
Hatfield looks around and whistles innocently.
Clairee says 'no worries'
Branduin says 'ok sorry'
Dolci hugs Branduin.
Hatfield says 'we figured you'd sort it out and be back when you could'
Seth says 'is that cyber equivalent of lightning striking?'
Clairee says 'welcome back,Brandi!:)'
Redfieldt nods in enthusiastic agreement with Seth.
Branduin says 'yeah it just shuts down all of a sudden or freezes rather'
Redfieldt says 'a virus called windows'
Hatfield says 'so you reboot and all that fun?'
Dolci says 'isn't it a fairly new computer?'
Branduin says 'yeah i had too much stuff going on at once'
Branduin says 'ok where were we?'
~Verse to Room from Hatfield~
James 3:10
Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
~Verse to Room from Branduin~
James 3:9-10
9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Branduin nods.
Branduin says 'yes both blessings and cursing can come from our mouths and james says this should not be so'
Clairee nods.
Branduin says 'not only does it do harm to our own psyche and those of others but it shows where our hearts are'
Hatfield says 'James who coined the phrase, "Do you kiss your Momma with that mouth?'
Clairee agrees absolutely.
Branduin says 'phil 4:8 tells us what we need to focus on'
Clairee grins mischievously at Hatfield.
~Verse to Room from Branduin~
Philippians 4:8
Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Branduin says 'and we should also live up to 1 cor 13 4'
~Verse to Room from Branduin~
1 Corinthians 13:4
Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
~Verse to Room from Branduin~
1 Corinthians 13:5
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
~Verse to Room from Branduin~
1 Corinthians 13:6
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
~Verse to Room from Branduin~
1 Corinthians 13:7
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Redfieldt says 'Charity = love btw'
~Verse to Room from Branduin~
1 Corinthians 13:8
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
Hatfield nods sagely at Redfieldt.
Branduin says 'if we walk in love and think on the things that the Lord has for us it will be hard for us to dwell upon the negative in the situations and people around us'
Clairee nods.
Branduin says 'but as we all know we tend to get wrapped up in our feelings and knee jerk responses'
Clairee boldly proclaims 'Amen!'
Clairee grins mischievously.
Branduin says 'it IS possible for us to begin to focus on these things though esp if we continue to say these verses over and over to ourselves'
Branduin says 'that is one way that we can deal with negative responses'
Branduin says 'say the Word over and over to yourself'
Branduin says 'that is called hiding the Word in yoru heart'
Branduin says 'and we are commanded to do so by the Word'
Branduin says 'so i make it a challenge to myself'
Branduin says 'to write them down and post them where i can see them'
Clairee says, 'ooOOooOOooOOoo.'
Branduin says 'so when i start to respond negatively, i look at the verses'
Clairee says 'good idea!'
Branduin says 'and it works when i work it ;)'
Clairee smiles happily.
Branduin says 'but when i don't i tend to lash out and be a jerk'
Dolci gasps in astonishment.
Branduin nods.
Seth chuckles politely.
Dolci shakes her head no.
Dolci says 'not you'
Branduin says 'yes my tongue is set on fire by hell just like the rest of us ;)'
Branduin nods.
Branduin says 'yep ask seth ;)'
Branduin giggles.
Hatfield says 'is that what I'm smelling?'
Hatfield says 'thought it was bacon'
Branduin nods at Hatfield.
Branduin giggles.
Redfieldt says 'nah that is my jerky cookin'
Branduin says 'but the key is to hide the word in our hearts and to keep it ever before us'
Branduin says 'and the more we do so the less we will use our tongues to the detriment of others'
Branduin says 'we will begin to speak from the wellspring of the Word which is within us rather than from our opinions or feelings'
Branduin says 'and then too you will find your outlook about others changing'
Branduin says 'and will be transformed by the renewing of your mind'
Branduin says 'as Romans says'
Branduin says 'isn't it cool how the Word fits together like that?'
Branduin says 'make sense?'
Clairee nods.
Clairee agrees absolutely.
Branduin says 'now the hard part is doing it'
Clairee agrees absolutely.
Hatfield says 'that's always the hard part'
Clairee boldly proclaims 'Amen!'
Branduin says 'because it take effort and willingness on our part'
Clairee grins mischievously.
Branduin says 'but if we become willing for the Word to change us, it will'
Branduin says 'we just have to wrestle with the flesh which wants us to lash out and to make sure that we are always right or have the last word'
Branduin must like Hatfield a great deal to beam at him so broadly!
Clairee grins mischievously at Hatfield.
Clairee coughs loudly.
Branduin says 'but we have to realize that those things aren't really important in God's scheme of things'
Branduin nods at Hatfield.
~Verse to Room from Hatfield~
James 3:11
Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
~Verse to Room from Hatfield~
James 3:12
Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
Branduin says 'just imagine if your water fountain or tap half the time spewed bitter water'
Clairee icks!
Branduin says 'would you want to drink from it or would you become afraid that it would be icky?'
Redfieldt says 'sounds like my towns water supply'
Branduin giggles.
Clairee looks at Branduin and goes 'ick'!
Hatfield says 'what you mean imagine? You've not seen our water'
Dolci says 'mine too'
Hatfield says 'stories later'
Clairee nods in enthusiastic agreement with Hatfield.
Clairee nods.
Redfieldt says 'regardless I wouldn't use that fountain'
Hatfield says 'particularly if you didn't know when it would do what'
Redfieldt says 'so if a unbeleiver sees both comming out of us, they wouldn't use "us" eitehr'
Branduin says 'well those of us who speak negatively or rashly show a witness to those who God has put in our paths for us to lead into the kingdom'
Branduin says 'if they have no clue if we are gonna be nice to them or mean, they wouldn't want Jesus much, would they?'
Branduin nods at Redfieldt.
Branduin says 'exactly reddy'
Branduin says 'so in my mind'
Branduin says 'if the Word of God says we can lessen these times'
Seth says ''m curious if you do spew bitter words, what should we do to rectify it?'
Branduin says 'and the Lord won't give us anything in His word that we can not do.....'
Branduin says 'seems to follow that if we practice, we can lessen those times'
Branduin says 'good question seth'
Hatfield says 'first and foremost, apologize'
Branduin says 'what do you think we shoulddo?'
Clairee says 'apologize for one.'
Branduin nods.
Branduin says 'that's one'
Branduin says 'is that enough?'
Clairee says 'show by your actions ya meant it.'
Clairee says 'be kinder to them next time.'
Branduin says, 'ooOOooOOooOOoo.'
Branduin says 'oh you mean repent and mean it ;)'
Branduin says 'sounds like salvation process a little bit doesn't it?'
Branduin grins mischievously.
Hatfield says 'acknowledge what you've done (which is not same as apol) and show your intent to not be an idget in the future'
Clairee nods at Hatfield.
Branduin says 'have you ever noticed that most of the processes in the Word have the same components'
Branduin says 'to be saved you ACKNOWLEDGE that you have done wrong'
Branduin says 'sinned'
Dolci says 'idget?'
Branduin says 'and repent'
Hatfield says 'idget=silly/stupid'
Dolci says 'oh'
Branduin says 'but then you have to follow up daily to make sure you don't slide back into the same old sins'
Branduin says 'the same is true of the growth process in the Christian life'
Branduin says 'which this is a part of'
Hatfield says 'sin, repentance, asking forgiveness and restoration'
Branduin says 'and so you ask forgiveness of the person seth'
Branduin says 'and then endeavour not to do it again'
Branduin says 'but that has it's own components as well'
Seth says 'ok thanks for clearing that up for me :)'
Branduin says 'such as.....if they do something that just bugs the snot out of you....'
Branduin says 'you go one on one with that person and use I statements to tell them how it makes you feel'
Branduin says 'like this, "I feel xxxxx when you xxxxx". I need you to stop doing that please.'
Hatfield raises an eyebrow.
Clairee raises an eyebrow.
Branduin says 'but we also have to realize that their response to our request is not our issue'
Branduin says 'we have to accept what they decide to do with our request and deal with it APPROPRIATELY :)'
Branduin says 'and in a Christ like manner'
Redfieldt says 'like slash thier tires. just kidding'
Hatfield says 'I would be willing to use myself as an example with recent events if you'd like?'
Branduin says 'which means not lashing out at them any more but agreeing to disagree etc'
Branduin says 'ok hatty'
Clairee says 'what is appropriate though if we ask them to stop and they get really angry?'
Hatfield says 'little bit of background'
Hatfield says 'I am the youngest of a family of four'
Branduin says 'well clairee you have to tell them that you are sorry that you lashed out and not do it again'
Hatfield says 'my eldest sister and her husband own an advertising agency in Indianapolis'
Branduin says 'their anger isn't your issue unless you keep prodding them'
Clairee says 'no I mean after ya tell em that, and their response is negative.'
Branduin covers her mouth in an attempt to silence herself.
Redfieldt says 'all you can do is walk away'
Clairee covers her ears and starts singing "Lalala, lalala, I can't hear you!"
Branduin says 'ask again after hatty's storry'
Redfieldt says 'they will examien your life further'
Clairee meekly apologizes to Hatfield.
Branduin nods at Redfieldt.
Branduin says 'good reddy :)'
Redfieldt says 'sorry hat'
Branduin must like Redfieldt a great deal to beam at him so broadly!
Branduin listens intently to Hatfield.
Hatfield says 'I guess for the longest time, I was jealous of their success, particularly since financially we don't always do so well'
Branduin says 'ok ad agency in indy'
Branduin nods at Hatfield.
Hatfield says 'I finally wrote her and told her how I was feeling and asked her to forgive me'
Branduin nods at Hatfield.
Branduin says 'yes the hardest folks to practice this with is family they tend not to forget and forgive as easily :('
Hatfield says 'I don't really feel like I'm dealing with the jealousy any more, but she still sometimes makes me feel like I'm still the four year old little brother'
Branduin nods.
Clairee nods in enthusiastic agreement with Hatfield.
Branduin says 'yep but it is yoru choice how to feel hatty ;)'
Clairee says 'I told him they may have material things. but without God they really have nothing'
Branduin says 'no one can MAKE you feel any way'
Clairee nods in enthusiastic agreement with Branduin.
Branduin says 'our feelings come from our thought processes we have about situations and people'
Hatfield says 'but as you said, its a whole lot harder to practice with family'
Clairee nods in enthusiastic agreement with Hatfield.
Branduin says 'that is why it is so important to hide the Word in our hearts'
Branduin says 'then at the appropriate times we can repeat it to ourselves'
Branduin says 'my clients used to say You are trying to brain wash us!!!'
Branduin says 'i was like yes i am....but my mind needs a good washing!!!! Doesn't yours???'
Clairee smiles happily.
Hatfield says 'you should have told them they only needed to worry if you decided to tumble dry'
Clairee grins mischievously at Hatfield.
Branduin says 'and that is what we are doing we are replacing what Satan and the world has put there with what God wants'
Branduin says 'and in doing so our mouths will begin to follow suit'
Branduin says 'remember that verse about our mouths speak what is in our hearts'
Branduin says 'ok any questions?'
Branduin says 'seth did i answer your question?'
Clairee says 'My question earlier, you apologize and repent and they get snotty with you.'