Bible Study log
Cyto says 'Romans 15'
Cyto says 'continuing'
Cyto says 'if you remember from tuesday we were thinking about the sort of Grand way Paul shows us Scriptures are for all of human history and societies, that the Bible is applicable  to all, was written with a unified purpose and comes together perfectly to share God's message and purpose and purpose with His people'
Cyto says 'from friday'
Cyto says 'It also shows some of God's purpose'
Cyto says 'Evangelism, unity of the body, and people loving and sacrificing for each other'
Cyto says 'a people made in God's image spiritually, through choice, and God's mercy, God leading people to share perfect self-sacrificing love for Him and each other'
Cyto says 'the way we were supposed to be before we messed up'
Cyto says 'i suppose there wouldn't have to be a lot of sacrifice if we hadn't messed up'
Cyto says 'but the principle'
Cyto says 'in God's image'
Cyto says 'anyone can show me some of the ways this passage points to that'
Cyto smiles happily.
Cyto says 'hey sora'
Sora says 'hi'
Cyto says 'we're working on romans 15'
Sora says 'i dont have a bible on me'
Sora says 'nor do i know where they are since we moved'
Cyto says 'that's okay gimme one sec'
Cyto says 'http://biblestudytools.net/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=Romans+15§ion=0&version=nsn&new=1&oq=&NavBook=ro&NavGo=15&NavCurrentChapter=15'
Cyto says 'that's the link to the portion we're studying'
Cyto says 'should i post it verse by verse'
Cyto says 'anyone want me to spam?'
Kendogarurumon says 'i think you can also bring up the verses on the mud'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'you can verse to self romans 15 1 33'
Cyto says 'type that command and it will show you the whole chapter'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Romans 15:1-33 1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves. 2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification. 3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me. 4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. 5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: 6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God. 8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: 9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name. 10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. 11 And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people. 12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust. 13 Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost. 14 And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another. 15 Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God, 16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost. 17 I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God. 18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed, 19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ. 20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation: 21 But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand. 22 For which cause also I have been much hindered from coming to you. 23 But now having no more place in these parts, and having a great desire these many years to come unto you; 24 Whensoever I take my journey into Spain, I will come to you: for I trust to see you in my journey, and to be brought on my way thitherward by you, if first I be somewhat filled with your company. 25 But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. 26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem. 27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things. 28 When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit, I will come by you into Spain. 29 And I am sure that, when I come unto you, I shall come in the fulness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ. 30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me; 31 That I may be delivered from them that do not believe in Judaea; and that my service which I have for Jerusalem may be accepted of the saints; 32 That I may come unto you with joy by the will of God, and may with you be refreshed. 33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
Cyto says 'okay'
Cyto says 'so anyone feel like chiming in, or you all in a mood for me talking at you  for an hour'
Sora thanks Cyto heartily.
Cyto says 'or should i make it a little simpler'
Cyto says '?'
Kendogarurumon says 'what was the question cy?'
Cyto says 'sorry mistyped'
Kendogarurumon grins mischievously.
Kendogarurumon says 'its ok'
Kendogarurumon says 'now what was the question cy'
Cyto says 'okay well you saw my comments at the beginning'
Cyto says 'the question is, is who can back up some of my statements'
Cyto says 'or show some of the ways Romans 15 indicate some of those things'
Cyto says 'any thoughts?'
Cyto says 'oookay then'
Cyto says 'well back to the chapter'
Cyto says 'ermm well lemme ask a simpler one'
Cyto says 'what verses in the chapter show that God meant the scriptures for a BUNCH of people not just Jews'
Cyto says 'are there any places in the passage that talk about the passage being meant for jews and others'
Legonis says 'sing for us ali'
Legonis welcomes Heather back.
Kendogarurumon says 'ack!'
Legonis boggles at the concept.
Legonis boggles at the concept.
Legonis says 'how'd i get a bean bag chair/'
Cyto says 'okay sooo'
Kendogarurumon says 'hang on cyto'
Cyto says 'okay'
Kendogarurumon says 'ok romans... what?'
Cyto says 'romans 15'
Cyto says 'i pasted the whole chapter earlier'
Kendogarurumon says 'and i cant scroll back that far :)'
Cyto says 'ah ic'
Cyto says 'i'll show you how to make a bigger scroll buffer later'
Bible Study log
Cyto says 'okay while i'm waiting for you to search and study a bit'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Romans 15:14-17 14 And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another. 15 Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God, 16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost. 17 I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God.
Cyto says 'hrmm i don't like that translation'
Cyto says '14 But I myself also am persuaded concerning you, my brothers, that you yourselves also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.'
Cyto says '15 But I have written the more boldly to you on some points so as to remind you of them again because of the agrace given to me by God'
Cyto says '16 That I might be a 1minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles, a 2laboring 3apriest of the gospel of God, in order that the boffering of the Gentiles might be acceptable, having been csanctified in the Holy Spirit.'
Cyto says '17 I have therefore my 1aboasting in Christ Jesus bin the things pertaining to God.'
Cyto says 'What Paul is saying there?  He's saying to the Romans that he's not saying they're totally messed up by writting to the Strongly'
Cyto says 'Not that they should feel yelled at'
Cyto says 'He feels God gave him grace in shaping him a certain way and allowing him to understand some things'
Cyto says 'and is saying Its on my heart that you get this'
Cyto says 'He's saying its His Job to help the Gentiles become acceptable/closer to God'
Cyto says 'there were a lot of gentiles in the church in rome i think'
Cyto says 'He's not trying to boast or be harsh, but he has a deep desire that they get it (the rest of the book of Romans)'
Cyto says 'any thoughts yet on the first question?'
Sora says 'nope'
Heather says 'wellMany talk about the Body life in Romans 12 without the actual practice of the Body life, the we reall love one another. For example, some have seen that in the Body of Christ we are members one of another (12:5). However, they cannot name any members to whom they are specifically related. So, their word about being members one of another is mere talk. We are not here for talk about the Body life'
Cyto says 'scuse me'
Cyto says 'okay more then'
Cyto says 'okay lets deal with that'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Romans 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
Cyto says 'well its important to live that out in actuality'
Cyto says 'but are there any verses in Romans 15 that support it'
Cyto says 'okay lets look at romans 15 and i'll point out some of the ways'
Cyto says 'that it indicates the stuff i mentioned'
Cyto says 'please everyone pull up romans 15 in your browser or in a bible'
Kendogarurumon says 'already got my bible turned to romans 15'
Cyto beams a smile at Kendogarurumon.
Cyto says '1 But we who are strong ought to bear the weaknesses of those who are aweak and not to please ourselves.'
Cyto says 'the self sacrificing attitude we are supposed to have'
Cyto says 'the mind of Christ'
Cyto says '2 Let each of us please his neighbor with a view to what is good for abuilding up.'
Cyto says 'in this verse we are sacrificing for the specific purpose of building up our neighbour ( i assume spiritually). specifically we're supposed to work for the goal of building up our neighbours and the church, bringing them closer to Christ'
Cyto says 'Throughout the scriptures this is God's will, man to come closer to him'
Cyto says 'It is God's will that he use us to bring each other closer to Him'
Cyto says 'by filling us with His spirit'
Cyto says 'His power, we are used to act as Him, it is this perfect love/mercy, wonderful that he would actually desire us so much to be one with us, using us in love even after we had sinned, to the perfect purpose of bringing us together and toward Him'
Cyto says 'He even died for us, so that could happen'
Cyto says 'er did you miss that last part?'
Cyto says 'His power, we are used to act as Him, it is this perfect love/mercy, wonderful that he would actually desire us so much to be one with us, using us in love even after we had sinned, to the perfect purpose of bringing us together and toward Him'
Sora says 'yes  did'
Cyto says 'er did you miss that last part?'
Cyto says 'He even died for us, so that could happen'
Cyto says 'Throughout the scriptures this is God's will, man to come closer to him'
Cyto says 'It is God's will that he use us to bring each other closer to Him'
Cyto says 'by filling us with His spirit'
Cyto says 'He even allows us to be part of Him as He is part of the Father'
Cyto says 'He would actually desire to become ONE with us'
Cyto says 'he actually structured the WHOLE bible to show the relationship he wants with us'
Cyto says 'The relationship of a Husband and wife, Father and Son, Employer and Employee, The stories of the patriarchs'
Cyto says 'all of scriptures designed to show that relationship'
Cyto says 'shepherd and sheep'
Cyto says 'World events structured to show God's love for us'
Cyto says 'His provision'
Cyto says 'How he takes care of everything'
Cyto says '3 For Christ also did not please Himself, but as it is written, a"The reproaches of those who reproached You fell upon Me.'''
Cyto says 'Christ did this for us, we are even to take the punishment for each other'
Cyto says 'sacrificing for each other'
Cyto says 'Taking the name of YWHY'
Cyto says 'though it may be unpopular'
Cyto says 'it shows the character of God'
Cyto says 'standing up for what is right'
Cyto says '4 For the things that were awritten previously were written for our instruction, in order that through endurance and through the 1encouragement of the Scriptures we might have bhope.'
Cyto says 'take a look at verse 4'
Cyto says 'this indicates that all of scriptures are 1'
Cyto says 'they are all for our benefit'
Cyto says 'and they are for HOPE'
Kendogarurumon nods.
Cyto says 'and they show two characteristics of God that we should emulate'
Kendogarurumon beams a smile at Heather.
Cyto says 'endurance and Hope'
Cyto says '5 Now the aGod of endurance and encouragement grant you to be of the bsame mind toward one another according to 1cChrist Jesus,'
Cyto says 'this reiterates his characteristics of endurance and encouragement'
Cyto says 'oh i missed that one, encouragement, we are supposed to encourage each other'
Cyto says 'As Christ ordered the WHOLE bible to encourage/plead with us'
Cyto says 'well I'm not sure about every passage, but I suspect'
Cyto says '5 Now the aGod of endurance and encouragement grant you to be of the bsame mind toward one another according to 1cChrist Jesus,'
Cyto says 'oops'
Cyto says '6 That 1with aone accord you may with bone mouth cglorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.'
Cyto says 'he is encourageing us to What?'
Cyto says 'Another characteristic of God, Glorify Him'
Cyto says 'Yeshua showed that it was righteous to glorify God, it is part of God's character'
Cyto says 'as those who are one with God it should be our nature also'
Cyto says 'we are encouraged to Glorify him to be of that MIND'
Cyto says 'Our Mind's and Spirit's should become desirous of glorifying God'
Cyto says 'in word and deed'
Cyto says 'v 5 and 6'
Cyto says '5 Now the aGod of endurance and encouragement grant you to be of the bsame mind toward one another according to Christ Jesus, 6 That 1with aone accord you may with bone mouth cglorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.'
Cyto says 'So having the same mind to one another is not for NO reason'
Cyto says 'We are to have the Same mind as Christ so our Nature will Respond to God as Christ responded to God'
Cyto says 'This isn't something we do alone'
Cyto says 'we do it as a Body'
Heather says 'amen'
Cyto says 'We are together as one and One with Christ'
Cyto says 'when we are referred to as the Bride of Christ'
Wargreymon blinks innocently.
Cyto says 'this might be what's its talking about'
Cyto says 'we have the Same mind as Christ as ONE, worshipping God as ONE'
Cyto gives Wargreymon a brotherly hug.
Cyto says 'any thoughts?'
Wargreymon gives Cyto a sisterly hug.
Cyto says 'This is SOOOOO Awesome'
Cyto says 'just imagining the PERFECTNESS, LOVE of God, setting things up this WAY,'
Cyto says 'How he could be so GOOD to us'
Cyto says 'having done what we've done'
Cyto says 'This is actually his desire'
Cyto says 'it makes me misty'
Cyto says 'misty isn't the word'
Cyto says 'Therefore areceive one another, as 1Christ also received you to the glory of God.'
Cyto says 'Christ Did all this for us'
Cyto says 'he received us'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'for Us to not receive each other.....We are more than a family, we are ONE'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'so given that relationship, for us not to receive ALL Christians in Love and Embrace is like sooooooooo far from God's will'
Heather says 'it is amazing'
Cyto says 'It really shows us OUT of God's will, if our thought is not to Be one with our brother Christians'
Cyto says 'If we don't want to forgive'
Cyto says 'If we don't want healing'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'if We don't want to be one'
Cyto says 'if we don't want God's will'
Cyto says 'it shows us SOO far'
Cyto says 'away from what we're supposed to be, we have to TAKE a serious look'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'at the stuff going on with us, and pray/ beseech God to help us fix it'
Cyto says 'Are you feeling it'
Cyto says '?'
Cyto says '8 For I say that Christ has become a 1servant of the circumcision for the sake of God's 2atruthfulness, to confirm the bpromises given to the fathers, 9 And that the Gentiles should glorify God for His amercy, as it is written, b"Therefore I will 1extol You among the Gentiles, and I will sing praise to Your name.'''
Cyto says 'read that'
You hear a raspy contemplative sound come from Wargreymon. Hmmmm.
Cyto says 'Jesus became Circumcised, he obeyed the Jewish Laws'
Cyto says 'it shows how the WHOLE bible is trying to tell us, How the whole thing is showing God's plan'
Cyto says 'mercy'
Cyto says 'and desire'
Cyto says 'It was all planned from the beginning'
Cyto says 'and it was all Love'
Cyto says 'i guess that's enough for tonight'
Cyto says 'would someone like to pray'
Cyto says 'Dear Jesus we praise you, thankyou SOOOOO much for bringing out your Word, you are sooo amazing, Thankyou God please help us please you, glorify you, Desire! you, in every way according to your will'
Cyto says 'Help us LORD, Give us passion to love others through the week and our lives, God use us powerfully to make disciples, that  ALL would know your name all would love you, all would have your LIFE'
Cyto says 'Thankyou God, Thankyou'
Cyto says 'In your Holy precious name'
Cyto softly says amen.