Bible Study log
Cyto says 'k'
Cyto says 'sorry'
Cyto says 'i'll have to edit that'
Jotham says 'np'
Cyto says 'hrm'
Jotham says 'don't mean to get us off topic'
Cyto says 'nope'
Jotham says 'don't have many people around in the summer to discuss things with'
Cyto says 'just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love'
Cyto says 'He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,'
Cyto says 'i hope i prove a worthy adversary and collaborator'
Jotham says 'i love difference of ideas as long a all remeber we are one body and not to let ourselves become divided'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'here we're dealing with a couple of concepts'
Cyto says 'we being chosen from  BEFORE the foundation of the world'
Cyto says 'He chose us IN Him'
Cyto says 'that's an interesting turn of phrase'
Cyto says 'we can't be saved without him'
Cyto says 'to Be saved in Him, seems to imply his actions'
Cyto says 'those actions hadn't occured yet'
Cyto says 'this is showing God's perspective that's beyond time'
Cyto says 'and his sovereignity'
Cyto says 'Now I believe heather has a comment to make'
Cyto says 'about the translation of the second verse of the pair'
Cyto says 'this will be heather now'
Cyto says 'um i hope the study log is still going'
Cyto says 'anyway Heather was contending about that word being translated adoption'
Cyto says 'He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,'
Cyto says 'she said it should be sonship'
Redfieldt says 'in other more clear words He made it so that who so ever will can be saved'
Redfieldt says 'not just the jews, but everyone who confessed Christ '
Redfieldt says 'as Lord'
Redfieldt says 'and believes on him'
Digimonlover happily waves hello.
Redfieldt waves to Digimonlover.
Cyto says 'okay so after looking up the definition of the word in the commentary its interesting'
Digimonlover blinks innocently.
Digimonlover writhes, screaming 'The PPppppPOOOOoooWWWwwwErrRRR!'
Cyto says 'you'd look decent with a full beard'
Digimonlover writhes, screaming 'The PPppppPOOOOoooWWWwwwErrRRR!'
Angie says 'we should wait 10 more minutes'
Cyto nods.
Angie says 'start at the normal time'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'well lets let fi get what she wants to get out afore she has to depart and the rest shall wait'
Cyto says 'soo Fi how was your week'
FionaRose says 'Interesting...'
Cyto nods.
FionaRose says 'It started out with some craziness at church'
FionaRose says 'And I had a rough time at work today too'
Cyto nods at FionaRose.
Cyto says 'well how can we pray for you'
FionaRose says 'Well, pray that Athos and I can figure out what God wants us to do about all the crazy church stuff, and prayer for patience with work'
Cyto nods.
Wargreymon kicks back and enjoys the view.
Cyto says 'did you have anything you wanted to share about your experiences with grief, or how you've dealt with the hard things'
Wargreymon points at herself, obviously very confused.
Cyto points excitedly at FionaRose!
Wargreymon nods.
FionaRose says 'Hmm.. I don't have anything off the top of my head'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'okay'
Cyto says 'okay well its 9pm'
Cyto says 'are there any other prayer requests'
Cyto says 'or praise reports'
FionaRose says 'Gah! Sorry, craziness all around.. I have to be going, but blessings on you :)'
Cyto nods at FionaRose.
Cyto says 'Well God bless you Renee, we'll pray for you'
Cyto says 'and Doug'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'and your church and stuff'
Angie hugs FionaRose.
Cyto says 'okay well I got some prayer requests and praise reports'
Cyto says 'prayer for me and heather that I can get a job soon and all my stuff taken care of so we can get married soon'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'um lessee, prayer for Ark'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'for this ministry that it will continue in God's will and that we'll all be submitted to him and sold out'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'um lessee my friend tori is sorta in crises she needs money for her business her nephew nick just got his foot amputated and she's making some bad relationship decisions'
Cyto says 'l'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'Praise for continued ministry opportunities'
Cyto says 'Voice of the Martyrs conference on the 18th'
Cyto says 'prayer for absolmn who's getting kicked out of his halfway house on thursday'
Cyto says 'both for his spirit, sould and physicality'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'cab driver that may come to church with us'
Cyto says 'Prayer for me and heather to keep our relationship pure and edifying and to resolve all our premarital interpersonal issues healthfully (hopefully without having to pay lots of money to a counselor that my insurance doesn't cover)'
Cyto says 'what about you Ang, what can we pray for you today'
Angie says 'just for branduin and her family'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'umm i guess we should get started'
Cyto says 'jotham how are you doing tonight'
Jotham says 'pretty good'
Cyto says 'anything you'd requests or praises ...'
Jotham says 'just financies as we have a 300 dollar car bill to pay on friday'
Cyto nods.
Jotham says 'praises my brother has finally adjusted to living way up north'
Cyto nods.
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'is he saved?'
Jotham says 'oh yeah'
Cyto says 'kewl'
Cyto says 'okie dokie'
Rundl bows deeply.
Cyto says 'i guess time to pray'
Rundl says 'OK'
Cyto says 'Rundl requests, praises?'
Angie points excitedly at Rundl!
Rundl gasps in astonishment.
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× oh a friendly point'
Rundl smiles happily.
Angie nods.
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× let's see - finances and new kiddo on the way :)'
You hear a raspy contemplative sound come from Wargreymon. Hmmmm.
Cyto nods.
Rundl says 'course Brandy too'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'okay lets pray'
Cyto says 'i'm gonna nudge people please free to jump in'
Rundl nods.
Rundl rests and begins to meditate... he chants softly to himself.
Cyto says 'Dear Yeshua we praise you and thankyou, You are King, and saviour, God please forgive us for our sins, and make us right before you'
Cyto says 'make us acceptable to bring our requests'
Cyto says 'and for every good work you have for us'
Cyto says 'please conform us to your will'
Cyto says 'God a lot of requests tonight'
Cyto says 'we ask your help for our whole community'
Cyto says 'help us to love you'
Cyto says 'to be dedicated to you to follow your will'
Cyto says 'to do your will in all things'
Cyto says 'God you are our God our redeemer and deliverer, please help these requests of our heart'
Cyto says 'dear God please help Brandy and her family'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× sorry'
Cyto says 'please help them deal with this'
Rundl softly says amen.
Cyto says 'help them deal with it healthfully'
Cyto says 'help them mourn and come to you and  not away'
Rundl looks around for someone to thank.
Cyto says 'God please help this whole mud to support Brandy'
Cyto says 'don't let her turn away from people'
Cyto says 'let her turn towards people'
Cyto says 'please let this community be a blessing, function properly , dear God don't let anything get in the way of our lampstand, please, if there is something interfering with us, deal with us, even if it means pain and stuff, please your will be done'
Cyto says 'God help brandy find a job'
Cyto says 'help her find her way in life'
Cyto says 'let your will be done in her life'
Cyto says 'I pray for Angie'
Cyto says 'that you get her into a good situation with a job or your desire for her, healthy friends, a good church let her know your love in her life'
Rundl smiles happily.
Angie smiles happily.
Cyto says 'Lord I ask your help for Rundl with his kids and wife and church and job and stuff, please help him'
Cyto says 'and take care of them'
Cyto says 'I pray for Jotham and his wife and brother'
Cyto says 'thankyou for Jotham, please help him to rely on you for every need and trust you completely, help him to have the awesomest relationship with you, and make him a blessing to ark'
Cyto says 'and whatever place you put him'
Jotham boldly proclaims 'Amen!'
Cyto says 'God i ask your help with heather and I keep us pure and focussed on you and relating rightly to each other'
Cyto says 'I pray for Wargy, help her relationships, keep her safe , don't let any evil touch her, but keep her for yourself, and let her acknowledge you in all her ways'
Rundl nods.
Cyto says 'God please help this mud and this study, please let us glorify you with our actions be submitted to you, praise and thankyou with our whole beings, rely on you, be filled with you, You are worthy, our all sufficient one, that sticks closer than a brother and lifts up the meek.  Let us be your Bride, overcomers'
Cyto says 'in your name we pray, amen'
Rundl softly says amen.
Cyto nudges Rundl.
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× I agree with Cyto Lord'
Jotham boldly proclaims 'Amen!'
Cyto softly says amen.
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× for good friendship on the mud'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× and for you comfort for Brnady and her family'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× protect those that are traveling. Help them morn and celebrate'
Cyto softly says amen.
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× be near the broken hearted like you do'
Cyto says 'yes'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× You know the secrets of our earts - speak there Your life'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× hearts*'
Cyto says 'Yes LORD'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× thanks for love in Cyto's life - let it grow beautifully'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× and for Angie - the desires of her heart and your plans for abundant life, let them wonderfully collide'
Cyto says 'AMEN'
Cyto says 'Yes Lord'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× for Jotham - meet every need inside and out, fill him with vision and purpose'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× and wargrey - give her strength and confidence, and a good fighting heart'
Cyto says 'Yes Lord'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× overwhelm us all with Your love a fresh - we are so thankful for the kind of Father you are'
Cyto says 'Yes Lord'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× so glad to know you and get to walk with You - there's no one like you and we want you to know that we appreciate that'
Rundl softly says amen.
Angie says 'amen'
Rundl nudges Angie.
Cyto says 'Yes Lord'
Rundl smiles softly.
Angie nudges Cyto.
Cyto says 'Yeshua help us today to do your will and be filled with you, make us a blessing, and teach us your ways'
Cyto says 'Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in your sight, my strength and my redeemer'
Rundl nods.
Cyto says 'and God we pray for Jahda, he ahs a lot of LOT of awful stuff in his Life so please help him'
Cyto says 'help him deal with these situations'
Rundl says '×ShadowBEAR× yeah'
Cyto says 'God please help him and Cathleen to work through their differences'
Cyto says 'bless their relationship and help us to minister to them'
Rundl smiles happily.
Cyto says 'in your name we pray dear Lord'
Cyto softly says amen.
Rundl gives everyone a big group hug!
Angie says 'amen'
Rundl bows deeply.
Cyto says 'well we're doing testimonies, sharing how we've dealt with hard things like death, and hopefully giving some comfort to branduin'
Cyto says 'would anyone like to share someothing in that vein?'
Jahda says 'Well, I've had more than my share of experience with hard things, including death...I'm just not sure how to go about giving a testimony.'
Cyto says 'well I thought we'd kinda focus on what we've found hel'
Cyto says 'well I thought we'd kinda focus on what we've found helpful in dealing with that stuff anything we've come out of it with'
Jahda nods.
Jahda says 'Well, when my father passed away I didn't deal with it in the most healthy way at first.  I cut myself off from my emotions, tried to be a rock for the rest of the family...but eventually I broke down.'
Cyto nods.
Jahda says 'I hit the bottom and I hit it hard.  I realized though that even though my father had passed on that he had been saved and that crying and mourning is okay for awhile but eventually it ends up being selfish.'
Cyto says 'how so?'
Jahda says 'Well, he is in a better place now.  I realized that I should not have been depressed but rather I should have been rejoicing.'
Jahda says 'Yes I missed him horribly and yes, I still do...however he is in Heaven now and happier than anybody could ever imagine being in this world.'
Cyto says 'did it hurt anyone besides yourself to be staying like that'
Jahda says 'To be cut off and be a rock for others I'm sure it helped them through.  I can't say that it hurt anyone because my family knew exactly what I was doing but also knew I was too stubborn to let myself go around them.  It was just one of those things I had to do on my own.'
Jahda says 'Any time I have had a hard time dealing with anything I've learned that turning to God and rejoicing is the best way to deal with it.  Don't focus on your own sadness, yes grieve, but do not focus on it.'
Jahda says 'Thank God for everything you have.  Even in the darkest times He never puts more on you than you can deal with.'
Cyto nods.
Jahda says 'Although it may feel that way sometimes I admit.  He never lets you down.  He will never let you fall without catching you.'
Jahda says 'So, no matter how dark you feel it is He is always a light.'
Cyto nods.
Jahda says 'Just remember that your depression is perfectly normal.  Don't focus on it though.  Look to God for light in your personal darkness.  He will lead you through.'
Cyto nods.
Jahda says 'That is how I've dealt with every dark spot in my life.  Reading through Job always seems to help as well.'
Cyto says 'I've also found that foucssing on others and involving yourself in others can help'
Jahda nods.
Cyto says 'give you something to fucus on other than yourself'
Cyto says 'and someone else to help with the burden'
Jahda says 'Absolutely.'
Cyto says 'What did you get from Job'
Jahda says 'That no matter how bad things are for you, God is always there.'
Jahda says 'Pretty much everything I've said up to this point as come from reading through Job during my various hard times.'
Jahda says '*has'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'well Okay I guess i'll go'
Cyto says 'I've had struggles'
Cyto sighs.
Cyto says 'a few come to mind'
Cyto says 'being sexually assaulted, emotionally abused by my parents, and accused by various church members of being a pedophile cuz of the vibe i gave off'
Kendogarurumon says 'sorry im late'
Cyto says 'I can't say exactly which is most relevant'
Jahda says 'Hard times are hard times.'
Cyto says 'somehow when its come to death, i've not really gotten all that upset'
Kendogarurumon says 'is study still going?'
Cyto says 'I've felt kinda bad'
Cyto says 'like i didn't care about the person enough'
Kendogarurumon says 'guess not'
Kendogarurumon shrugs helplessly.
Cyto says 'but maybe i'm just too isolated, introverted'
Cyto says 'reliant on myself'
Jahda nods.
Cyto says 'I guess one thing I learned was that you have to forgive people'
Cyto says 'that you can't move on'
Jahda nods.
Cyto says 'unless you do'
Cyto says 'no matter how justified you are in not'
Cyto says 'that you need other people'
Cyto says 'even ones who are imperfect'
Cyto says 'even ones who hurt you'
Cyto says 'which everyone will eventually'
Cyto says 'you need them in your life'
Cyto says 'you'll hurt people too, but you have to do your best to help each other and love each other and be open with each other'
Cyto says 'cuz, you'll eventually get hurt, but you'll never be happy or healthy otherwise'
Cyto says 'its God's will that we be connected to each other, that we be used for each other'
Cyto says 'and work as one body'
Jahda nods.
Cyto says 'so when you cut yourself off and tell people you don't want them involved in "my personal business" you cut yourself in the heart'
Jubilamb beams a smile at Heather.
Jubilamb pats Heather on her head.
Cyto says 'though I've also learned that with the stuff like sexual abuse, not everyone can deal with every problem, so some things you can't share with every friend, some things you really need friends who will understand and mature'
Jahda nods.
Cyto says 'but you still need them'
Cyto says 'hrmm what else'
Cyto says 'all the stuff you said about trusting God'
Cyto says 'Job helps'
Cyto says 'I like the part where God said who are you  to question me'
Cyto says 'when you know where the rain came from and where it goes to, when you can save yourself, when you can tell me you were there when i put the foundations of the world in place then you can say you can save yourself and I'll acknowledge but till then,'
Cyto says 'you're not really in a place to question if I'm really doing things best'
Cyto says 'God is God'
Cyto says 'smarter than us'
Cyto says 'and we need to trust Him'
Jahda nods.
Cyto says 'that means even when we're bleeding out, when we're in an accident and no morphine drip, when our wives leave us, when our kids are ripped away from us (and I've had a glimmering of what that feels like), when we're betrayed by our best friend, kicked out of our apartment, told not to come to work, and our dog dies'
Cyto says 'we're still to trust God'
Cyto says 'and love him'
Cyto says 'and obey Him'
Cyto says 'Cause he knows best and desires Good for us and not evil'
Jahda nods.
Jahda says 'It's not always an easy thing to do, but it's what is right.'
Cyto says 'and what is true'
Cyto says 'that's what I've seen worked out in practicality'
Cyto says 'His plans ARE best, and Good, that amazing comes out from obeying'
Cyto says 'I understand nothing in comparison'
Cyto says 'so even when we can't see it, we still have to trust'
Cyto says 'that it is both Right and Good'
Cyto says 'we'd really desire it if we understood'
Cyto says 'but we have to trust'
Cyto says 'cuz we're little'
Cyto says 'a lot of pain comes from there'
Cyto says 'we want what we want'
Cyto says 'we think we know what's best'
Cyto says 'and if we trusted God's plan'
Cyto says 'we'd know that he was working everything out'
Cyto says 'but because we don't'
Cyto says 'we get scared and angry'
Cyto says 'we say God you didn't give us this and we need it (scared) and we want it (angry)'
Cyto says 'and life just isn't going to be worth it without it'
Cyto says 'when we're like that, how can God deal with us'
Cyto says 'we're prideful'
Cyto says 'relying on our own understanding'
Cyto says 'and often our own power'
Cyto says 'we get broken, that's when amazing things start happening a lot'
Cyto says 'Heather, Jubie'
Cyto says 'we're having a study for Brandy'
Cyto says 'Her dad died yesterday'
Cyto says 'so we're sharing hard things in our lives and how we've dealt with them'
Cyto says 'and what we've got'
Heather says 'I'm sorry to hear'
Cyto says 'through dealing with them'
Heather says 'is Brandy here?'
Cyto shakes his head no.
Cyto says 'but the log is on'
Cyto says 'and we'll show it to her after'
Heather says 'amen'
Cyto says 'I feel like there should be something else I should share'
Cyto says 'but I'm not sure exaxtly what'
Cyto says 'anyone else'
Heather says 'why  don't we have some prayer'
Cyto says 'we did pray but go for it'
Heather says 'pray tonights message into our being'
Heather says 'no one can make it without the body'
Heather says 'the enemy would like us to be isolated so that he can attack'
Heather says 'but our covering is in the body'
Heather says 'I'll sorry I got here late and I dont know if we have prayed for Brandy and her family yet?'
Cyto nods at Heather.
Heather says 'but it would be good to pray and say amen to the spirits speaking regarding our need to be one with the saints'
Cyto says 'Okay well we can do more in closing'
Heather says 'amen'
Cyto says 'um would anyone like to share about their struggles'
Cyto says 'scuse me a sec'
Cyto says 'guess not'
Cyto says 'Its getting kinda late i guess we should turn to the word a little'
Cyto says 'The basics comfort me'
Cyto says 'I'm comfoted by Psalm 23'
Cyto says 'the assurance of God that he'd be with us even among our enemies'
Cyto says 'even in death'
Cyto says 'and that He (and his Children)(us) would be victorious eventually'
Cyto says 'and things would be set right'
Cyto says 'by Job where it says who are you to question god'
Cyto says 'it says something about who God is'
Cyto says 'God is the all sufficient'
Cyto says 'all powerful, all knowing one'
Cyto says 'everything is under contropl'
Cyto says 'control'
Cyto says 'in matthew 6'
Cyto says 'where it talks about If God takes care of flowers and birds excellently, won't he take care of us who are worth many birds'
Cyto says 'Throughout the bible it lays out God's plan for the Church, and its soooo Good, and intricate, complete, that it comforts me to Know how good God is and how much he wants Our Good'
Cyto says 'The same God that is all sufficient is SOOOOOO Good and wants us to be part of Him not just Saved by Him'
Cyto says 'Wants us to be used by him, wants us to be one body, sent us His Spirit to be in us'
Cyto says 'a God that CARES THAT MUCH, that gives me confidense and hope'
Cyto says 'i think that's one of the distinctives of the Christian religion'
Cyto says 'what other would claim God cares that much'
Cyto says 'did anyone have anything?'
Cyto says 'okay lets pray then'
Cyto says 'Heather did you want to pray'
Cyto says 'Okay I'll pray then'
Heather says 'amen Lord we pray that you will work this out in us'
Cyto says 'okay'
Cyto boldly proclaims 'Amen!'
Heather says 'that each one of us will grow in the divine life'
Heather says 'lord we want you to have your hearts desire'
Heather says 'that is a Body that matches you and expresses you here on earth'
Heather says 'Lord we confess that in ourselves we fall so short'
Heather says 'but thank you that by your life and because you loved us we have a way to fullfill your intention'
Heather says 'Lord tonight we stand as one'
Heather says 'and we thank you for this fellowship'
Heather says 'Lord we pray that the oneness of the body will become more of a reality to us each day. Amen'
Cyto softly says amen.
Cyto says 'Ty you have anything you'd like to share'
Redfieldt says 'not really'
Cyto says 'If you had to share one thing with someone hurting, what would it be'
Cyto says 'what do you think you should say'
Cyto says 'what can you do?'
Redfieldt says 'Id simply listen'
Redfieldt says 'its the best thing I can do'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'anyone else'
Cyto says 'what everyone thinks?'
Cyto says 'any other comments'
Cyto says 'what would you all like to share with Brandy?'
Jahda says 'Other than what I said earlier, just remember you're never alone.'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'amen'
Cyto says 'okay Class dismissed'
Cyto beams broadly at nothing in particular.
Heather says 'to remember that the woman was healed when she reached out to touch the Lord'
Cyto nods at Heather.
Angie says 'just all the love and hugs that can make her feel better'
Cyto must like Angie a great deal to beam at her so broadly!
Cyto gives everyone a big group hug!