Bible Study log
Redfieldt says 'I don't see anything special about it'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'think about each word'
Redfieldt nods.
Redfieldt says 'sometimes you dissect each word and miss the entire point of the verse'
~Verse to Room from Hatfield~
Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Cyto nods.
Redfieldt says 'the church is Jesus body, the fullness of God that filleth us with all'
Wargreymon nods.
Hatfield says 'so The (church) body is filled with Christ'
Wargreymon nods.
Redfieldt says 'you can say that'
Wargreymon nods.
Redfieldt says 'or you can say the church is filled with the holy spirit'
Redfieldt says 'or should be'
Wargreymon nods.
Redfieldt says 'but often we are not filled with the fullness of God and we willingly choose to feast of other things spiritually'
Hatfield says 'Aye, God=Jesus=Holy Spirit=trinity'
Redfieldt says 'exactly'
Redfieldt says 'Jesus = still God  God = Still God Holy spirit = still God'
Redfieldt says 'doesn't matter he is still God'
Hatfield says 'was that not what I just said?'
Redfieldt says 'it was'
Redfieldt says 'I was just saying it in another way'
Hatfield says 'okeydoke'
Hatfield listens intently to Cyto.
Redfieldt nods.
Hatfield says 'lead on teacher'
Cyto says 'wait for her'
Cyto says 'hey'
Cyto says 'like i was saying'
Cyto says 'my issue with this verse is this'
Cyto says 'it implies that the body of Christ the Church'
Kendogarurumon says 'so whos this her were waiting for'
Cyto says 'is the fullness of the expression of God'
Cyto says 'my question is How can the Church POSSIBLY express God'
Cyto says 'FULLY'
Redfieldt says 'by being filled with his spirit'
Redfieldt says 'fully'
Redfieldt says 'I state this and it might make a few of you mad'
Cyto says 'well explain that some more'
Redfieldt says 'but we really don't know how to walk fully in the spirit'
Kendogarurumon says 'what verse we looking at fury?'
Cyto says 'well like Yah'
Redfieldt says 'we get too distracted'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Hatfield says 'and likely shall not fully till we're in heaven'
Cyto nods sagely at Hatfield.
Redfieldt says 'I disagree'
Cyto says '???'
Redfieldt says 'in a way that is right'
Hatfield says 'Aye?'
Redfieldt says 'but what i am getting at'
Redfieldt says 'we could be walking a heck of lot more in the spriit that what we as a church are '
Cyto nods at Redfieldt.
Redfieldt says 'I am talking God's spirit being so strong on us, that when we walk down the hall at work, coworkers turn there head cause they fill hte spirit'
Redfieldt says 'like Peter'
Cyto says 'my question is as Humans no matter how perfect we are, God filling us,can we ever express God's infinity of Love?'
Redfieldt says 'people put sick people in the way, that maybe his shadow passed by and touched them they would be made whole'
Redfieldt says 'I don't think so Cyto'
Redfieldt says 'I read something is sunday'
Cyto says 'then How can the church be the fullness of His expression'
Redfieldt says 'it said that Our nature isn't Holy, as God's nature is, He can't tolerate sin'
Cyto nods sagely.
Redfieldt says 'and we tend to wallow in it like pigs'
Redfieldt says 'or at least I do'
Redfieldt blushes.
Cyto nods sagely at Redfieldt.
Cyto points at himself, obviously very confused.
Redfieldt says 'goss nah'
Cyto beams a smile at Mmelville.
Hatfield bows deeply.
Cyto says 'we're studying Ephesians 1'
Kendogarurumon says 'as i was saying'
Cyto says 'we're on verse 23'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Mmelville says 'do i go to it in my bible?'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Ephesians 1:21-23 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: 22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Redfieldt says 'you can'
Cyto says 'sure'
Mmelville says 'well ill just listen and read on the screen its upstairs i think'
Mmelville says 'so proceed'
Cyto says 'the question is How can The church be the fullness of the expression of God'
Redfieldt says 'these scriptures all point to Christ being the Head and fullness of hte church'
Cyto nods.
Mmelville nods.
Redfieldt says 'so How can hte Chruch be Like Christ the full expression of God'
Redfieldt says 'or am I way off Cyto'
Cyto says 'well the only way is to be filled with the Spirit'
Cyto says 'as little of ourselves'
Cyto says 'and as much of him as possible'
Cyto says 'I still have a hard time seeing how the church can be The FULLNESS of the expression of God'
Redfieldt says 'and How do we be filled with the spirit, by walking in the spirit, how do we walk we have to submit to the Word which is Christ the FULLNESS of the expression of God'
Redfieldt says ''brb'
Cyto says 'k'
Cyto says 'I understand that'
Cyto says 'But it still boggles my mind that the church would express God fully'
Cyto says 'i mean does it really mean that we express all aspects'
Mmelville shrugs helplessly.
Cyto says 'and his magnitude'
Kendogarurumon says 'im not exactly shure what the term fullness of the expression of god even means'
Wargreymon nods.
Hatfield says 'I would think to the best of our ability'
Cyto says 'well that's a good question'
Hatfield says 'how 'bout we break that down a bit oh Cytoplasmic one?'
Cyto says 'The bible says that The spirit of God dwells in believers'
Kendogarurumon says 'cant tanswer your question if i dont know what it means'
Kendogarurumon smiles happily.
Cyto says 'and that Believers share unity'
Cyto says 'we have the same spirit'
Cyto says 'and not only That'
Cyto says 'we were saved by the same man with the same act'
Cyto says 'we share the same mission'
Cyto says 'our desire is to serve the same master with the same goal and we are all brothers and more'
Kendogarurumon says 'OH!'
Kendogarurumon grins mischievously.
Kendogarurumon says 'now i get it'
Redfieldt says 'while we are filled with the spirit on salvation, we are not baptized with the spirit in power until we submit and wait and obey'
Cyto says 'with our mortal souls it would be impossible for us to desire this or have power to do it'
Mmelville nods.
Cyto says 'well i'm not sure about the timing'
Cyto says 'We can discuss that later'
Cyto says 'with the spirit of God dwelling in us'
Cyto says 'we have power to do what we couldn't truly love one another and work for each other's Good self-sacrificingly and God's plan, effectively'
Cyto says 'The spirit gives us power, shows us our path, gives us wisdom, comforts us, protects us'
Cyto says 'sometimes believers can even tell each other, i've heard, seeing something in another person'
Redfieldt raises his hand in response.
Cyto says 'their is an automatic unity and friendship'
Redfieldt says 'not braggin but God used me that way a few times, I've seen things on people and was able to minister to them'
Hatfield says 'Aye, many of us in the ministry team have had the experience'
Cyto says 'because beyond any petty differences, we are saved, from our own selves, we owe our lives to one who loved us while we were yet sinners, so how can we get snarky with others he loved'
Hatfield says 'that is part of why we are here after all'
Mmelville nods.
Cyto says 'now that doesn't always happen in practice cuz we still do have our fleshly bodies and can be sinful'
Cyto says 'but living fully in the spirit its what happens and what God is changing us into'
Cyto says 'The unity of Believers Glorifies God because of the awesomeness of His plan'
Cyto says 'not only does God desire the believers to have unity with each other'
Cyto says 'he wants us to have unity with Him, As Brothers'
Cyto says 'Jesus referred to Disciples as Brothers'
Cyto says 'of HIM'
Cyto says '!!!!!!!!!!!'
Mmelville says 'but arent they sons of him because he's god?'
Redfieldt says 'Brothers in Christ, Servants grafted into the family as sons '
Cyto says 'Jesus said I think that He wanted us to be in the Father as He is in The father and The father is in Him so He is in us and we should be in Him'
Redfieldt says 'I am Cyto's spiritual brother'
Mmelville nods.
Redfieldt says 'I am Christ's servant, grafted in as a son,'
Cyto says 'but also His friend'
Redfieldt says 'Christ Owns me, he bought me with his blood'
Mmelville says 'i getchya'
Wargreymon blinks innocently.
Cyto says 'Jesus said he calls us not only Servants for a master doesn't tell his plans to a servant, but he calls us friends, for he has revealed everything to us'
Cyto says 'He could have left us as servants'
Mmelville nods.
Redfieldt says 'he could have left us servants of Satan'
Cyto says 'but it glorifies himself to bring us who were once sinnsers and could not even have contact with God'
Cyto says 'as not Only servants but as friends and family'
Mmelville says 'i have a question thats kinda out of subject but still about god'
Cyto says 'Not only Friends and family but imbued actually with HIS spirit in US'
Hatfield nods at Mmelville.
Cyto says 'and even Gave us PART of HIS Work to do'
Cyto says 'ministering to other people'
Mmelville says 'if god says he is our father and he will not forsake us why did he forsake jesus?'
Redfieldt says 'and warning them'
Cyto says 'so that's really REALLY mind boggling'
Cyto nods at Mmelville.
Hatfield says 'may I take this one?'
Cyto says 'sure'
Mmelville says 'yes'
Redfieldt says 'sure'
Redfieldt listens intently to Hatfield.
Hatfield says 'I think about the easiest way to explain it is'
Redfieldt listens intently to Hatfield.
Hatfield says 'God the Father had to turn away from Jesus when he died because in order for his death to mean something, Jesus had to do it completely alone'
Redfieldt says '....'
Mmelville nods.
Hatfield says 'In all other things, God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one.  But in that ONE thing, Jesus had to stand alone'
Mmelville says 'ok ok'
Hatfield says 'doesn't mean it was a pleasant experience, but it still had to be that way'
Mmelville nods.
Mmelville says '...'
Cyto says 'er sorry for the delay'
Mmelville says 'it ok'
Hatfield says 'does that make sense to you Mel, or would you like to ask anything further'
Mmelville says 'i think i understand'
Redfieldt says 'yeah cuase I could fry your mind completely'
Redfieldt says 'ok'
Mmelville says 'i cant think of any more questions'
Hatfield says 'no brain frying Red, he's going to need that for a while longer'
Hatfield bonks Redfieldt on the head.
Redfieldt says 'darn'
Cyto says 'does it seem consistent to yu'
Mmelville says 'who?'
Redfieldt listens intently to Cyto.
Cyto nods at Mmelville.
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Mmelville says 'so peter was the one that hung himself?'
Cyto says 'okay well if you ever have any uncomfortableness with your understanding of anything PLEASE ask'
Hatfield says 'that was Judas'
Redfieldt says 'no that was Judas'
Cyto says 'we Really enjoy answering'
Mmelville says 'oh ok'
Mmelville says 'since he was a deciple did he go to heaven?'
Mmelville says 'or not because he killed himself'
You hear a raspy contemplative sound come from Hatfield. Hmmmm.
Redfieldt says 'Ouch '
Cyto says 'well that's a good question Mmelville'
Redfieldt says 'deep question'
Mmelville nods.
Cyto says 'hanging yourself I'm not sure that sends you straight to hell'
Cyto says 'because if you're saved'
Cyto says 'then committing a sin, well I don't know that would indicate you're not saved'
Mmelville says 'i thought it was because u cant ask for forgiveness because ur dead'
Redfieldt says 'I disagree with Cyto'
Mmelville says 'i dont kno'
Cyto says 'i don't think it quite works like that'
Cyto says 'that's kinda legalistic'
Redfieldt says 'I don't think Judas ever really commited to Christ'
Cyto says 'if that were the case then the last thing everyone would have to do is ask for forgiveness'
Mmelville says 'really but he was a deciple'
Hatfield says 'I'd have to look into that myself'
Mmelville says 'that was to red'
Cyto says 'well What Jesus says gives us the clue'
Redfieldt says 'and I ask you alot of people call themselves Christians and never show it in there lifestyles'
Redfieldt says 'Judas had his hands in the alms bag'
Cyto says 'Jesus says I have lost none except the one doomed from the beginning or something like that'
Hatfield raises an eyebrow at Redfieldt's weird actions.
Cyto says 'Jesus said he had lost him'
Cyto says 'so to me that says he wasn't really saved'
Mmelville says 'i see what ur saying'
Hatfield says 'Mel, you've given me something to look into'
Hatfield thanks Mmelville heartily.
Redfieldt says 'he may have been in the Disciples company but was he just there for the money?'
Mmelville nods.
Mmelville says 'good q'
Cyto says 'or maybe he wanted what jesus had but he wasn't real'
Cyto says 'not willing to give up everything'
Redfieldt says 'yep never really commited to Christ'
Cyto says 'or something like that'
Cyto shrugs helplessly.
Cyto says 'I dunno'
Cyto says 'we may find out differently in heaven'
Cyto says 'that's our best guess'
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Redfieldt says 'when we get to heaven we can  ask Jesus'
Mmelville nods.
Hatfield says 'sounds like a plan Red ;)'
Cyto says 'i think Jesus said it would also have been better that a millstone had been hung around his neck than he be born'
Cyto says 'that also gives an indication'
Redfieldt says 'no'
Cyto says 'that he had never been born?'
Redfieldt says 'Jesus said that about anyone who misleads babes in Christ '
Cyto says 'along those lines'
Cyto says 'he said it specifically about judas too'
Redfieldt nods.
Mmelville says 'yeah'
Cyto says 'ookay dokie so any more Q's'
Redfieldt says 'we like this'
Redfieldt says 'tis fun'
Cyto nods sagely.
Mmelville nods.
Mmelville says 'is this for everyone or for just the currators clan? bc im not in that clan'
Cyto says 'everyone'
Redfieldt says 'everyone'
Mmelville says 'ok good'
Hatfield says 'the study is for any who choose to come'
Hatfield says 'it just usually TENDS to be predominantely curators'
Mmelville says 'do u do this every night or just once a week or what?'
Redfieldt says 'except me'
Cyto says 'though if you'd like to petition it could be arrainged'
Hatfield says 'Tuesdays and Fridays'
Cyto winks at Mmelville.
Mmelville says 'ok'
Cyto says 'you Too red'
Hatfield says 'Red's staff, he can toggle himself in'
Redfieldt nods.
Cyto nods sagely.
Hatfield says 'and Kendo's not in curators'
Cyto says 'true but I'd be happy to put him through the interview and questing process anyway'
Hatfield twiddles Kendogarurumon's ears.
Redfieldt says 'goto cyto's room take all ash all'
Hatfield says 'just purge ...'
Redfieldt shrugs helplessly.
Cyto says 'yes Well I love her anyway'
Cyto gives Kendogarurumon a brotherly hug.
Cyto says 'anyway'
Hatfield says 'back to it..anything else oh furry teacher??'
Hatfield blinks innocently at Cyto.
Kendogarurumon says 'erg why would you goto cytos room take all ash all redfield?'
Kendogarurumon says 'and tis true... im only a curator at heart :)'
Redfieldt says 'nothing kendo its an inside joke'
Cyto says 'well v 23 can we get any more out of it'
Kendogarurumon says 'sorry'
~Verse to Room from Hatfield~
Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Mmelville shrugs helplessly.
Cyto says 'well i looked up fullness in the greek but that didn't help much'
Redfieldt says 'it plain'
Redfieldt says 'its plain'
Cyto says 'because fullness really can be taken a few ways'
Mmelville nods.
Cyto says 'there is so much I Don't understand about this'
Cyto says 'but lets start chap 2 and if i figure anything out or if anyone else does we can revisit'
Cyto says 'ooh wait'
Cyto says 'i wanted to show you hebrews 1'
Mmelville says 'kk'
Cyto says 'really if you wanted, reading the whole chapter would be good'
Hatfield says 'Aye'
Cyto says 'I like the Complete jewish bible translation of it'
Cyto says 'I haven't compared it closely'
Cyto says 'so don't know if i will continue to'
Cyto says 'but from a visceral level'
Cyto says 'i like the translation'
Mmelville says 'what is visceral?'
~Verse to Room from Redfieldt~
Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Redfieldt says 'top level, face value, etc'
Hatfield says 'means something that you really get into ... something that '
Cyto shakes his head no at Redfieldt.
Redfieldt says 'oops'
Hatfield says 'something that you respond to strongly'
Cyto says 'all those things combined'
Mmelville says 'ok'
Cyto says 'viscera is your gut'
Cyto says 'visceral means your gut reaction'
Hatfield bows before Rundl.
Rundl bows deeply.
Mmelville says 'soz to interupt i just kinda interrupted the verse'
Rundl kicks back and enjoys the view.
Cyto says 'how you respond emotionally and immediately'
Mmelville says 'ok'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'well'
~Verse to Room from Hatfield~
Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Cyto says 'Jewish bible translation'
Cyto says '1 In days gone by, God spoke in many and varied ways to the Fathers through the prophets. 2 But now, in the acharit-hayamim, he has spoken to us through his Son, to whom he has given ownership of everything and through whom he created the universe. 3 This Son is the radiance of the Sh'khinah, the very expression of God's essence, upholding all that exists by his powerful word'
Hatfield raises an eyebrow.
Woebegone taps his foot as he waits.
Cyto says 'Nas'
Cyto says '1:1 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 1:2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 1:3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word'
Redfieldt says 'give cyto a little bit'
Cyto says 'of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 1:4 having become as much better than the angels , as He has inherited a more excellent name than they. 1:5 For to which of the angels did He'
Cyto says 'ever say, "YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU"? And again, "I WILL BE A FATHER TO HIM AND HE SHALL BE A SON TO ME"? 1:6 And when He again rings the firstborn into the world, He says, "AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP'
Redfieldt says 'the starting verse was eph 1:23'
Cyto says 'this chapter is so powerful'
Redfieldt says 'and How can the church be the fullness of the expression of God'
Cyto says 'this goes to show How Christ is the exaxt representation of His nature (the Father's)'
Mmelville says 'im soz but i dont really understand im not to good at interpretting this chap'
Cyto says 'that's okay'
Mmelville says 'or interrerpitng anything'
Cyto says 'look at verse 3'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Cyto says 'look at that'
Cyto says 'what's it mean?'
Mmelville says 'ok'
Woebegone says 'express image of His Person'
Cyto says 'Jesus is the Brightness of His (Father's) Glory'
Mmelville says 'ok keep going'
Cyto says 'he is the express Image of His person and Upholding all things by the word of His power'
Cyto says 'Woebegone'
Woebegone says 'yeah?'
Cyto says 'could you talk a little bit about what this means'
Cyto says 'break it down'
Cyto says 'phrase by phrase'
Redfieldt says 'I got to go'
Cyto nods at Redfieldt.
Cyto gives Redfieldt a brotherly hug.
Woebegone says 'can you tell me the flow of the dialouge (context)'
Cyto says 'we're talking about eph 1 23'
Cyto says 'and were asking How can the church be the full expression of God'
Woebegone says 'ok'
~Verse to Room from Woebegone~
Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Cyto says 'and I brought this verse up because it shows Christ being the Expression of God'
~Verse to Room from Woebegone~
Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Cyto says 'so if you could break down verse 3 that would be cool'
You hear a raspy contemplative sound come from Woebegone. Hmmmm.
Cyto says 'packs a punch'
Woebegone says 'sure does - talking about the diety of Christ and about how he is the representation of the Father'
Cyto says 'brightness of his Glory what does that mean'
Woebegone says 'I like how Jesus said it - "if you have seen me, you have seen the Father"'
Cyto nods at Woebegone.
Mmelville says 'i like this but i gotta go ill be back on in like half hour'
Cyto nods.
Mmelville says 'byby'
Woebegone says 'glory has to do with a lot - can mean the "personhhood" the "status"'
Cyto says 'k'
Cyto says 'peace'
Woebegone says 'and there is something of the PRESENCE of Him'
Hatfield says 'someone needs to tell Mel to use QUIT'
Cyto says 'well it seems personhood is covered later'
Cyto nods sagely.
Woebegone says 'I like that Mmelville :)'
Hatfield says 'you missed it earlier'
Woebegone says 'missed what?'
Hatfield says 'check the log later'
Hatfield says 'total left field question unrelated to the study, but very deep for a 13 year old'
Cyto says 'so I'm thinking brightness of his glory means one of two things or both'
Woebegone says 'I guess that this labguage speaks to me of the perfect representation - if the Glory is awesome and He is the brightness of that glory - then you can't get more perfect'
Cyto says 'magnitude, or character'
Cyto says 'or representation'
Woebegone says 'like the distilled essence, the most pure'
Cyto says 'or does brightness mean that he shines light on God's Glory'
Hatfield nods.
Cyto says 'or that He Expresses God's glory'
Woebegone says 'ooo that's good too'
Woebegone says 'both representing and revealing'
Woebegone says 'again "if you have seen me, you have seen the Father"'
Cyto says 'greek def'
Cyto says 'says its the shining forth of reflected brightness'
Cyto says 'or a light coming from a luminous body'
Woebegone says 'the representation and the revelation of the Father in one'
Cyto says 'er shining forth of a light coming from a luminous body'
Cyto says 'give it a try'
Cyto says 'and Upholds all things by the word of His Power'
Woebegone points at himself, obviously very confused.
Cyto nods.
Woebegone says 'man this is a mind trip - He is the word... and made all things by the word, and sustains all things by the word'
Woebegone says 'his word is the substance - the security, the dependability of matter'
Cyto nods.
Woebegone says 'and more - body, soul, spirit... everything'
Woebegone says 'our very existance, our molecules, our emotions, our mind'
Cyto says 'tie it all together'
Woebegone says 'I guess you could say "He speaks, therefore , I am"'
Cyto says 'the other two parts'
Woebegone says 'right'
Cyto nods at Woebegone.
Woebegone says 'he is the revelation and exact representation of the father, and the living force which creates and sustains everything'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'Don't fore get Glory'
Kendogarurumon says 'sorry about that'
Woebegone says 'he is God in other words'
Cyto nods at Woebegone.
Woebegone says 'the glory was the revelation part'
Cyto nods.
Dolci says 'i gotta go...gonna go pick up some food'
Woebegone says 'reflect, reveal, represent'
Cyto says 'God is glorified through his expressin'
Woebegone says 'ah yez'
Cyto says 'His expression is the foundation of the Universe'
Cyto says 'It is the author of all things'
Woebegone says 'blows the mind'
Cyto says 'sage'
Woebegone says 'and then we gat to be reflectors of THAT!'
Cyto says 'When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,'
Woebegone loudly exclaims 'DOH!'
Cyto says 'yup'
Cyto says 'and its how we got to be reflectors'
Cyto says 'and that is interesting'
Cyto says 'when he had made purification of sins, he sat down'
Cyto says 'I wonder if anything about him had changed'
Woebegone says 'finished his priestly work'
Cyto says 'what was different'
Cyto says 'And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, "AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP'
Cyto says ''f'
Cyto says 'And of the angels He says, "WHO MAKES HIS ANGELS WINDS, AND HIS MINISTERS A FLAME OF FIRE."'
Woebegone says 'how's it going Kendo?'
Cyto says 'But of the Son He says, "YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.'
Woebegone says 'what is your connection with the angels?'
Woebegone says 'how he is exalted above them in his Sonship?'
Woebegone pokes Kendogarurumon in the ribs.
Cyto says 'there seems to be something about Jesus' work where God exalted him above his companions and his nature'
Woebegone says 'check out his prayer in John - now glorify me...'
Cyto says 'so it seems a deepening of Jesus's place as king'
Woebegone says 'he was made lower than angels for a time - to then be made all in all'
Woebegone says 'though he was from the beginning, yet the epic had to be told'
Cyto nods.
Woebegone says 'authority!'
Woebegone says 'earn back what Adam lost'
Cyto says 'but didn't he already have it'
Woebegone says 'by his own worthiness, and succeeding where we failed'
Cyto says 'authority over sin death and the grave'
Cyto says 'even though we were worthy of them'
Woebegone says 'but he had given it to men (dominion) and we lost it - so as a man he got it back, though as God he already had it - mystery'
Woebegone says 'awesome'
Woebegone says 'the authority over heaven and earth I mean'
Cyto nods.
Woebegone says 'course he had the heaven part but earth he has given to men'
Cyto says 'there's a lot of stuff there i'm not sure about'
Cyto says 'but it seems some decent thoughts'
Cyto says 'lets pray'
Cyto says 'would you close?'
Woebegone says 'sure :)'
Woebegone says 'are there any prayer requests?'
Cyto smiles happily.
Cyto says 'covered mainly'
Woebegone says 'OK. I'll just close then'
Cyto says 'though mention red'
Cyto says 'he got here late'
Woebegone says 'Father thank you for encouraging us to think bigger'
Cyto says 'Amen'
Woebegone says 'you are awesome and we get real humble real quick in Your presence'
Woebegone says 'we just get low tonight thinking about how we are completely in your hands'
Woebegone says 'Father forgive of fresh tonight'
Woebegone says 'we confess You, You are God and truth and Lord and we are not'
Cyto says 'Amen, Yes Lord'
Woebegone says 'and then we know that you are fearful and holy'
Cyto says 'Oh, Be with us'
Woebegone says 'and the we see that you are really good and kind and loving'
Woebegone says 'that is amazing'
Woebegone says 'for you to be so kind'
Woebegone says 'we pray for what will transform us'
Woebegone says 'do that Father and we will participate with you'
Woebegone says 'we want to better reflect, reveal, represent your signature'
Woebegone says 'want you to be FULL in us and be more FULLY in you'
Cyto says 'Yeah Lord, please Help us do that'
Woebegone says 'bless this bunch and this MUD'
Woebegone says 'we pray for love and genuine, right relationship here'
Cyto says 'AMen yes'
Woebegone says 'You can do anything, we love You'
Cyto says 'Yes Lord'
Woebegone says 'In Jesus name Amen'
Woebegone boldly proclaims 'Amen!'
Cyto softly says amen.
Woebegone says 'AND Fionarose who got here just now!'
Cyto gives Woebegone a brotherly hug.
Cyto beams a smile at FionaRose.
Woebegone gives everyone a big group hug!
FionaRose bows deeply.
Cyto beams a smile at Woebegone.
Woebegone says 'get her REAL good Lord'
FionaRose says 'My timing is impeccable ;)'