Bible Study log
Cyto says '1:6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. 1:7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace 1:8which He lavished on us. In all wisdom and insight'
Cyto says 'In Him we have redemption through His blood'
Redfieldt nods.
Redfieldt says 'he was the only perfect sacrifice'
Cyto says 'The forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His Grace'
Cyto says 'He lavished it on us'
Cyto says 'His grace'
Cyto says 'i learned this thing'
Cyto says 'In the church heather goes to'
Cyto says 'they take a passage of the bible'
Cyto says 'and repeat each phrase over and over in prayer, agreeing with it'
Cyto says 'this lets them focus on it more'
Cyto says 'and it tends to show you things you didn't notice before'
Cyto says 'I'd like to try that with you a little later, or another day, not just now'
Redfieldt says 'good tactic but it sometimes can lead to nit picking and you don't get what the entire chapter is about '
Cyto says 'the idea is to be praying, communicating with God and touching him with your spirit'
Cyto says 'hopefullly he will bring out what he wants you to see'
Cyto says 'i know what you mean ty'
Cyto says 'its not necessarily what they'll doo in most bible studies'
Cyto says 'possibly in morning devotions'
Cyto says 'they might'
Cyto says 'there is a danger of not touching your spirit and just being freaky'
Cyto says 'Dear God please help Jessica and protect her'
Cyto says 'okay anyhow'
Cyto says 'that passage just made me think of it'
Cyto says 'the word according tickles me there'
Cyto says 'the greek, it can mean a bunch of different things'
Cyto says 'If i understood more I might be able to get something out of that'
Cyto says 'anyway moving on'
Cyto says 'its simple and we all understand it i hope'
Cyto says 'but it bears repeating, and thought as long as we're going over the passage'
Cyto says '1:6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. 1:7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace 1:8which He lavished on us. In all wisdom and insight'
Cyto says 'In praise of The Glory of His Grace which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.'
Cyto says 'one thing I'm not sure of here is what the beloved refers to'
Cyto says 'does it refer to the believer or to Yeshua'
Cyto says 'It would seem to refer to the believer'
Angie hugs Jazmine.
Cyto says 'the geneva commentary seems to be saying that its referring to Jesus though'
Cyto says 'so the next verse would make sens'
Cyto says 'sense'
Cyto says 'Him referring to the Beloved'
Cyto says 'still have to look at it more'
Cyto says 'he Lavished the mercy on us, but it is in The Beloved that this happens, only through the sacrifice, Only residing in Christ'
Redfieldt says 'my poster of the names of Jesus says that is one of his names'
Cyto says 'on us. In all wisdom and insight 1:9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him 1:10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth'
Cyto says 'He made known His will to us, as friends, children not as servants'
Cyto says 'we covered household administration last week'
Cyto says '1:12 to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory. 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation --having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, 1:14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory.'
Cyto says 'of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory. 1:15 For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which exists among you and your love for all the saints, 1:16 do not cease giving thanks for you, while making mention of you in my prayers'
Cyto says 'of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory. 1:15 For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which exists among you and your love for all the saints, 1:16 do not cease giving thanks for you, while making mention of you in my prayers 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. 1:18 I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope'
Cyto says 'what is the reason'
Cyto says 'explain paul's reason'
Redfieldt says 'reason for what?'
Cyto says ''for this reason''
Cyto says 'of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints,'
Cyto says '1:19 and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might'
Jazmine says 'what book and chapter are you on cyto?'
Cyto says 'eph 1'
Jazmine says 'oh '
Redfieldt says 'the reason is for the encouragement of hte saints'
Cyto says 'expand'
Cyto says 'think of what we talked about in the rest of this chapter in previous weeks'
Redfieldt says 'so paul heard what was going on in eph, and came down to istruct and edify the beleivers'
Cyto says 'wrote'
Redfieldt says 'that doesn't matter'
Redfieldt says 'it was Paul in his spirit'
Cyto says 'the chapter talks about the unity of the believers'
Cyto says 'and the unity with Christ'
Cyto says 'and our dependence on Christ for His blood'
Cyto says 'our unity as a family'
Redfieldt nods.
Cyto says 'and our inheritence as heirs through the blood of Christ, through God's mercy, love'
Cyto says 'to the Kingdom of God'
Cyto says 'the Sonship'
Cyto says 'our true oneness'
Cyto says 'so with that, can we see any more meaning there?'
Redfieldt says 'I don't'
Cyto says 'k'
Cyto says 'well what i was seeing was this'
Cyto says 'Paul was rejoicing more than simply for new members of the body'
Cyto says 'Paul being part of them'
Redfieldt says 'brb'
Cyto says 'He rejoiced for the love they had for all the saints'
Cyto says 'the faith that was among them'
Redfieldt says 'back'
Cyto says 'This is the expression of the Body of Christ'
Cyto says 'The previous chapter is talking about that'
Cyto says 'He shows his joy about 3/4 of a chapter down'
Cyto says 'he's showing how it fits together'
Cyto says 'He is rejoicing at their love for each other, their functioning as part of the body of Christ'
Cyto says 'This rejoicing is part of His being part of the Body of Christ'
Cyto says 'The power of The spirit in The body  is continually Glorifying God  by the saints continually blessing , and glorifying God and taking joy in God's glorification and the blessing of each other'
You hear a raspy contemplative sound come from Redfieldt. Hmmmm.
Cyto says 'this is God's pattern'
Cyto says 'and it just makes me go  WOW'
Redfieldt says 'everything ever created was made to glory God correct'
Cyto nods.
Redfieldt says 'I knew that'
Redfieldt says 'Onward'
Cyto says 'k'
Cyto says 'would you say the Ephesians were Christians?'
Redfieldt says 'yes'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'so lets take a look'
Cyto says 'what does paul pray for?'
Redfieldt says 'paul is praying for them (Christians) who are doing Gods work which in turn makes the enemy mad and will cause tribulation'
Redfieldt says 'that they would know more of God'
Redfieldt says 'that they would know the power and fullness of Christ'
Cyto says 'well lets get more specific'
Cyto says 'lets see some of the things that they didn't know'
Cyto says 'or that Paul hoped God would reveal'
Redfieldt says 'it is speculation that they didn't know these things'
Redfieldt says 'paul could have been just reminding them'
Cyto nods at Redfieldt.
Redfieldt says 'my bible also says'
Redfieldt says 'this wasn't just to the people at ephuneus'
Cyto says 'but he says he was Praying'
Redfieldt says 'it was the the entire region'
Cyto nods at Redfieldt.
Redfieldt says 'so there could have been some leaders and many new converts'
Cyto says '1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him'
Cyto says 'it says a Spirit of wisdom and of revelation'
Cyto says 'not just specific knowledger'
Cyto says 'a Spirit of wisdom is more helpful than specific knowledge'
Cyto says 'well most specific knowledge'
Cyto says 'a Spirit of wisdom would help them know when something wasn't wisdom perhaps?'
Redfieldt nods.
Redfieldt says 'mmm off topic but i am listing to a sweet song'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'was listening to one girl revolution by superchick'
Cyto says 'so anyway'
Redfieldt says 'u need to watch this afterward'
Cyto says 'Perhaps Paul was concerned that they not be overcome by false teachers'
Cyto says 'disunity people'
Cyto says 'etc'
Cyto says 'is there anywhere in ephesians he warns them against wolves or disunity?'
Cyto says 'i really dunno'
Cyto says 'I'll have to look that up later'
Redfieldt says 'nod'
Redfieldt says 'chapter 6?'
Cyto says 'the armor of God'
Cyto says 'i was thinking of something more specific'
Cyto says 'anyway'
Redfieldt says 'why do you have to wear it'
Redfieldt says 'it warns to wear it'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'He wants them to have a spirit of Revelation'
Cyto says 'he wants them to be open to God's leading'
Cyto says 'like with that pray reading thing'
Cyto says 'we should stay in tune with the Spirit'
Cyto says 'We should see God's will, his revelation  to help us understand life and His word'
Redfieldt nods.
Redfieldt says 'I g2g soon'
Cyto says 'I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints,'
Cyto says 'and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might'
Cyto says 'so he wanted the eyes of the Ephesians to be enlightened'
Cyto says 'but didn't they already have that stuff explained to them'
Cyto says 'why wouldn't they understand?'
Cyto says 'hey'
Redfieldt says 'maybe only some of them'
Babygirl says 'hi'
Cyto says 'what about the spirit of Revelation?'
Cyto says 'What if it had been explained to them and they had heard it'
Cyto says 'what might it mean'
Redfieldt says 'I don't know cyto'
Cyto says 'A lot of times you read the bible'
Cyto says 'and you see the words'
Cyto says 'and you have a brain'
Cyto says 'and it shows you something'
Cyto says 'however if you're not a christian'
Cyto says 'if you're not serious about God'
Redfieldt says 'its foolishness'
Cyto says 'and even if you are'
Cyto says 'It won't necessarily resonate'
Cyto says 'it won't mean anything'
Redfieldt says 'I got to get going now cyto'
Redfieldt says 'pray for anne marie'
Redfieldt says 'and if you have time pray for me'
Cyto says 'Having the Spirit of God in you, you can see ten levels of meaning that just were opaque before'
Redfieldt says 'nighty'
Cyto says 'blessings'
Cyto says 'hey Baby'
Babygirl says 'hiyas'
Cyto says 'Ephesians 1'
Babygirl says 'k'
Cyto says 'we're talking about connecting with God and the unity of the believers'
Cyto says 'I mentioned a thing called pray reading'
Babygirl says 'k'
Cyto says 'where you pray each phrase of the bible to understand it better'
Cyto says 'agreeing with God's word'
Babygirl says 'never heard of it before'
Babygirl says 'twould make sense to do though'
Cyto says 'according to the kind intention of His will, 1:6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. 1:7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace 1:8which He lavished on us.'
Cyto says 'do you ever get in that place where you feel like you're really contacting God'
Cyto says 'would you like to try pray reading?'
Babygirl says 'not anymore...'
Babygirl says 'i dunno if i can do much anymore just kinda lost my way'
Babygirl says 'nothing feels right anymore '
Cyto says 'well lets pray for you'