Bible Study log
Cyto says 'okay guess not'
Cyto says 'so tonight we'll be discussing eph 2'
Jessica says '#I have a friend that is searching for the Lord.  Her name is Kim.  Please pray for her salvation.#'
Cyto says 'nod jess'
Jessica says 'sorry'
Cyto says 'np'
Cyto says 'I meant type'
Cyto says '#'
Cyto says 'like that then type'
Cyto says 'but that's oka'
Jessica says 'ok'
Jessica nods.
Cyto says '2:1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, '
Cyto says '2:1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, '
Cyto says 'er sorry'
Cyto says '2:1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2:2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 2:3'
Cyto says 'Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He'
Cyto says 'loved us, 2:5 even when we were dead in our  transgressions, made us alive together with Christ  (by grace you have been saved ), 2:6 and raised us  up with Him, and seated us with Him in the  heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 2:7 so that in'
Cyto says 'the ages to come He might show the surpassing  riches of His grace in kindness toward us in  Christ Jesus. 2:8 For by grace you have been saved  through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is  the gift of God, 2:9 not as a result of works, so  that no one may boast. 2:10 For we are His  workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good  works, which God prepared beforehand so that we  would walk in them. 2:11 Therefore remember that  formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are  called "Uncircumcisi'
Cyto says '"Uncircumcision " by the so-called  "Circumcision," which is performed in the flesh by  human hands -- 2:12 remember that you were at that  time separate from Christ, excluded from the  commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the  covenants of promise, having no hope and without  God in the world.'
Cyto says 'okay tell me when you're all done'
Jessica says 'finished'
Kendogarurumon says 'done'
Cyto says 'okay now go back over the passage and note every For and therefore and unto and think about what they mean'
Cyto says 'and tell me when you're done'
Jessica says 'done'
Cyto says 'kewlness'
Cyto says 'where's the first place we notice for?'
Cyto says '"for"'
Redfieldt says 'for we are his'
Dianalilly says 'say for his great love wherewith he loved us,  verse 4#'
Cyto says 'well actually I'm looking for the first for in this translation'
Cyto says 'verse 8'
Cyto says 'For by grace you have been saved through faith'
Cyto says 'For by grace you have been saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God'
Cyto says 'to understand this we have to look at the last verse'
Cyto says '2:6 and raised us  up with Him, and seated us with Him in the  heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 2:7 so that in  the ages to come He might show the surpassing  riches of His grace in kindness toward us in  Christ Jesus.'
Cyto says 'tell me how verse 6 and 7 interact with verse 8'
Cyto says 'i'm sorry'
Cyto says 'i didn't go back far enough'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Ephesians 2:4-7 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Cyto says 'in fact'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Ephesians 2:1-7 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Jessica says 'by his mercy and grace we can be with him'
Cyto says 'all that is what verse 8 is dependent upon'
Cyto says 'explain how all that elaborates on verse 8'
Cyto says 'in verse 1 - 7 it explains everything about us God saved us from'
Cyto says 'the magnitude'
Cyto says 'the magnitude of God's grace'
Cyto says 'the sacrifice'
Cyto says 'Why God did it'
Cyto says 'and what He was saving us to'
Cyto says 'in verse 1'
Cyto says '2:1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins,'
Cyto says 'it was that bad'
Cyto says 'we were dead'
Cyto says '2:2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.'
Redfieldt says 'without christ we still are dead'
Cyto says 'in addition'
Cyto says 'this wasn't just our idea'
Cyto says '2:2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.'
Cyto says 'we were walking as SLAVES'
Cyto says 'to satan'
Cyto says 'the magnitude of what he was saving us from'
Cyto says 'sin and tresspasses, serving evil'
Redfieldt says 'and the choice is plain either your a slave to Satan or a slave to Jesus, but Jesus treats us more than just a salve'
Redfieldt says 'slace'
Redfieldt says 'slave'
Cyto says '2:2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.'
Cyto says '2:3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.'
Cyto says 'this wasn't just some people, even the apostles, even the Christians'
Cyto says 'even jews'
Cyto says 'children of wrath'
Cyto says 'Children of God'
Cyto says 'Children of wrath'
Cyto says 'you are of your father the devil'
Cyto says 'liar from the beginning'
Cyto says 'Children of wrath, children causeing wrath, children destined'
Cyto says 'all those things, maybe translateable'
Cyto says 'but it implies the others'
Cyto says '2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He  loved us,'
Cyto says 'why did God save us?'
Dianalilly says '#because of his great mercy and Jesus#'
Cyto says 'why was he Rich in Mercy'
Jessica says 'he wanted us to be adopted through his mercy and grace become children of the King'
Cyto says 'why'
Redfieldt says 'that doesn't mean he was rich in mercy like we think "rich"'
Cyto says '2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He  loved us,'
Jessica says 'because of His love'
Cyto must like Jessica a great deal to beam at her so broadly!
Cyto says 'each phrase means something'
Cyto says 'its very easy to let your eyes pass over'
Cyto says 'remember each phrase is there for a reason'
Cyto says 'the Bible which is the Word of God'
Cyto says '2:5 even when we were dead in our  transgressions, made us alive together with Christ  (by grace you have been saved )'
Cyto says 'what strikes you about this passage'
Dianalilly says 'it's because of God's Grace, #'
Cyto nods at Dianalilly.
Cyto says 'anything else'
Jessica says 'we were  redeemed and brought back from the dead'
Cyto says 'how?'
Jessica says 'by Jesus pain and grace on the cross'
Cyto says 'what does this verse say about it'
Jessica says 'it says that we are alive through Christ'
Cyto nods at Jessica.
Cyto must like Jessica a great deal to beam at her so broadly!
Cyto says 'or actually'
Cyto says 'alive together with Christ'
Cyto says 'that's actually one word'
Cyto says 'to make alive together with'
Cyto says 'Why in the World the Greeks would have a word for that i don't know'
Cyto says 'suzoopoieo'
Cyto says 'what does it mean to make alive together with?'
Kendogarurumon says 'um'
Jessica says 'to put as one in Jesus'
Jessica says 'Jesus is alive so we are alive through him'
Cyto must like Jessica a great deal to beam at her so broadly!
Cyto says 'what is the Church'
Cyto says 'Pssst, last chapter'
Jessica says 'the body of Christ'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'so we are made alive in him'
Cyto says 'we are to be in Christ as Christ is In the Father'
Cyto says 'the Father is in Christ as Christ should be in us'
Cyto says 'i think that's it'
Cyto says 'it really makes you think what it means to be in'
Cyto says 'its beyond my level of comprehension'
Cyto says 'but we can get a glimmer'
Cyto says 'Christ has authority to forgive us'
Dianalilly says 'if Christ comes to live in our heart, we begin acting a little different, a little'
Cyto says 'we accept his free gift, but what it means to be in him, hrmmm'
Cyto says '2:6 and raised us  up with Him, and seated us with Him in the  heavenly places in Christ Jesus,'
Cyto says 'what are we saved To?'
Jessica says 'Christ'
Cyto says 'more'
Jessica says 'heaven'
Cyto says 'what else'
Jessica says 'we are seated with him mean he includes us'
Cyto nods at Jessica.
Cyto says 'we are not only saved'
Cyto says 'we are not only saved to some place'
Cyto says 'we are saved to a position!'
Cyto says 'the story of the prodigal son'
Cyto says 'what did the father do'
Cyto says 'when the son came home'
Kendogarurumon says 'he welcomes him back'
Cyto says 'how'
Kendogarurumon says 'he threw a party for him'
Jessica says 'gave him pardon and gave him everything'
Cyto says 'what everything'
Dianalilly says 'say gave him new cloclothes to wear  hugged him  ran to him,  rejoiced'
Cyto says 'what did the clothes mean'
Jessica says 'his the son is covered'
Dianalilly says 'he was going to put on a different way of behaving?'
Jessica says 'his mistakes were erased'
Wargreymon says, "Bah" and turns away in contempt.
Cyto says 'er not exactly'
Cyto says 'although that too'
Cyto says 'the ring was the family symbol'
Cyto says 'it signified authority and part of the family'
Cyto says 'the cloak was a symbol of nobility'
Cyto says 'he was fully restored'
Cyto says 'not simply to a position of a worker'
Cyto says 'but to a position of honor and responsibility in the family'
Cyto says 'his Father rejoiced, the animal was slaughtered'
Cyto says 'which probably has more symbology i don't know about'
Cyto says 'when God saves us'
Cyto says 'its not just away from Hel'
Cyto says 'Hell'
Cyto says 'its To Heaven'
Cyto says 'not just as people who are sliding in and gasping and sitting in the outer courts'
Cyto says 'but as Sons!'
Jessica says 'agreed'
Cyto says 'as people who will be given responsibilty'
Cyto says 'who God trusts with his plans'
Cyto says 'we are called friends'
Digimonlover nods.
Cyto gasps in astonishment.
Cyto says '2:7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.'
Cyto says 'why?'
Cyto says 'so why is he so kind to us'
Jessica says 'to show his amazing love and power'
Cyto says 'why are saved to that position'
Jessica says 'because we are part of Jesus family now'
Cyto says 'the riches of His grace in Kindness toward us in Christ Jesus'
Cyto says 'In Christ Jesus'
Cyto says 'Shyue-ming a discipleship partner'
Cyto says 'said that In is the most important preposition in the new testament'
Cyto says 'His grace and Kindness toward us is IN Christ Jesus, because apart from him, we are unworthy'
Cyto says 'He is our High Priest'
Cyto says 'Hrmmm now i'm not sure if i understand everything about the mechanism of the necessity of Christ'
Cyto says 'but his Kindness toward us is In Christ Jesus'
Cyto says 'you could look at it another way'
Cyto says 'His kindness to us was in Christ Jesus, that is he sent him'
Cyto says '2:8 For by grace you have been saved  through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is  the gift of God,'
Cyto says 'okay please explain the for'
Cyto says 'Detail'
Jessica says 'why grace we are children of Jesus through our faith'
Jessica says 'and not by any of us but by God sending Jesus as a payment for our wrong doing'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'okay that's it for now'
Cyto says 'any questions?'
Jessica says 'that there is a lot of wrong doing Jesus covers it all'
Cyto nods at Jessica.
Cyto says 'and its a lot of grace'
Cyto says 'in God doing Everything'
Cyto says 'even though we were dead'
Cyto says 'causeing trouble'
Cyto says 'an abomination'
Cyto says 'okay dokey'
Cyto says 'would someone like to close us?'
Jessica says 'I will'
Cyto says 'Jesus We praise you, we glorify your name and thankyou for your blessings, God Please bless us tonight let the study speak to us and make us desire more of you, thanky you go'
Cyto says 'God'
Cyto says 'lead us in your will, help us in every intereaction in every moment to show forth you'
Cyto says 'In your name i pray'
Cyto nudges Jessica.
Jessica says 'God please show us you through us because we need you instead of us.  Thank you you never give up on us at all'
Jessica says 'we are your redeemed children please make us more like you Jesus'
Jessica says 'amen'
Cyto softly says amen.