Bible Study log
Cyto says 'I REMEMBERED THE LOG'
Cyto dances crazily before you!
Cyto leaps up and twirls gracefully in the air.
Cyto merrily dances a jig around the room.
Cyto smiles happily.
Cyto says 'okay Ephesians 4'
Cyto says 'we talked about patience and tollerance on tuesday'
Cyto says 'more tollerance'
Cyto says 'why patience'
Cyto says '?'
Cyto says 'what does it have to do with unity'
Cyto says 'okay should i just talk'
Cyto says 'that's okay'
Tyrael says 'Becuase we as humans are a impaitient race'
Tyrael says 'and things are not in unity if they are not in "our time"'
Cyto scratches his head in bewilderment.
Cyto says 'explain more'
Tyrael says 'I want Kerri as a Gf'
Tyrael says 'follow me'
Cyto says 'how will that prevent unity'
Tyrael says 'I don't want to wait'
Tyrael says 'on Gods timing'
Tyrael says 'which is in perfect unity'
Tyrael says 'I will choose my own way more than likely and disrupt the unity'
Tyrael says 'unless I put to death my flesh'
Cyto says 'give a practical example'
Cyto says 'how could your actions disrupt unity'
Cyto says 'among believers'
Cyto says 'disobedience disrupts unity with God'
Cyto says 'but what about with believers'
Cyto says 'among themselves'
Tyrael says 'the same'
Cyto says 'how'
Tyrael says 'if a weaker brother see's me acting immature'
Tyrael says 'that isn't a good example'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'what might he do?'
Tyrael says 'give up'
Cyto says 'on what?'
Tyrael says 'the faith'
Cyto says 'well that's a little drastic , possible but drastic'
Cyto says 'how about this'
Cyto says 'someone sees you bugging kerri'
Cyto says 'its determined that this is a good way to pick up chicks'
Cyto says 'you're a youth sponsor after all'
Cyto says 'Joey decides to chat up kate'
Cyto says 'and when kate tells him to get lost or she'll slug him in the politest Christian way'
Cyto says 'he decides to follow her home and play his guitar under her window for five hours with the "Worst of Johnny Cash" until she agreest to go out on a date with him to shut him up'
Cyto says 'this is not an example of unity'
Cyto says 'The church will be talking about how much of a pain Joey is'
Tyrael says 'nod'
Tyrael says 'i gotta go ttfn'
Cyto sighs.
Cyto says 'danger of using your participant as an example'
Vayrim says 'I think we need to be patient with people who are trying to change for the better. We need to avoid expecting them to change instantly, or even quickly.'
Cyto says 'well expect is a loaded word'
Vayrim says 'Oh? Please explain.'
Cyto says 'Change is to be expected'
Cyto says 'Now a danger for a christian is judgeing'
Cyto says 'who are we to judge another man's servant'
Cyto says 'on the other hand we are to use discernment'
Cyto says 'and its our responsibility to lift our brother up'
Cyto says 'so if we see our brother taking a year and a day to change'
Cyto says 'it should be on our heart what can we do to help him'
Vayrim says 'Indeed, but we can't try to force it. We must be patient.'
Cyto says 'and if he/she is taking a long time, we might ask "should I get involved"  getting Involved is a sacred duty of the christian'
Cyto says 'it should also be noted that there is a certain authoroity one builds up when one has a relationship, if you really want someone to consider you their brother'
Cyto says 'in all likelihood you'll have to invest some time into them'
Vayrim says 'Oh? Please explain.'
Cyto says 'For a person to accept your help'
Cyto says 'reproach'
Cyto says 'encouragement'
Cyto says 'its likely not to mean a lot unless you know them and they know how much you mean because you have spent time getting involved with them'
Cyto says 'this is a big ministry'
Cyto says 'we are to correct our brothers'
Cyto says 'but if someone doesn't consider us brother, its hard to correct'
Cyto says 'we can be patient with them in the sense that we don't get mad, at least don't get loud'
Cyto says 'but that's not the same thing as being satisified with their progress'
Cyto says 'its quite possible that a brother's progress is entirely too slow and then as christians we need to  help them pick up the pace'
Cyto says 'it may be different for every person'
Cyto says 'but people make personal choices'
Cyto says 'and often they need help overcoming'
Cyto says 'overcoming their freedom'
Vayrim says 'So, we need to patiently build relationships with others, so they'll see us as brothers? Is that part of what you have been saying?'
Cyto says 'well its true'
Cyto says 'in fact it ties in with the whole chapter'
Cyto says 'what I'm saying is that being satisified with our brothers slow progress isn't necessarily a good thing, but being patient is'
Cyto says 'patient in a helping sense, not in a doing nothing sense'
Cyto says 'this isn't i'm okay and you're okay'
Cyto says 'I'm not Okay and Neither are you'
Cyto says 'Nor anyone else on the planet'
Cyto says 'at least completely'
Vayrim nods.
Cyto says 'in a way we should never be patient'
Cyto says 'especially with ourselves'
Cyto says 'in another way'
Cyto says 'it does no good to go nuts'
Cyto says 'we are a laughing stock with the rest of the world cuz they see us as asleep, its time we wake and start fighting for Jesus'
Cyto says 'in ourselves especially'
Cyto says 'we should have the conviction of the one who Having just become a christian runs out in the street, finds the first car, pulls the driver to the window and screams in his face "BECOME CHRISTIAN"  "BECOME CHRISTIAN" and the dude says, sure sure...........and our fellow leaves happy'
Cyto says 'not that we should do that'
Cyto says 'but that attitude'
Vayrim smiles happily.
Cyto says '4:3 being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.'
Cyto says 'okay how can you tell me that fits in'
Vayrim says 'We need to be patient with the solving of problems, and not walk out on the church because things don't get solved right away?'
Cyto says '4:2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love, 4:3 being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.'
Cyto says 'peace can mean peace with each other'
Vayrim says 'Is patience a part of humility, gentleness, and tolerance?'
Cyto nods.
Vayrim says 'Do they all intertwine?'
Cyto says 'yeah'
Vayrim says 'Ah.'
Cyto says 'we covered that in the last few studies'
Vayrim says 'Sorry I missed those.'
Cyto says 'logs on the website'
Vayrim says 'Or, maybe I caught one or two of them. I'm not sure.'
Cyto nods.
Vayrim says 'Thanks.'
Cyto smiles happily.
Cyto says 'the Unity of the Spirit what's that?'
Cyto says 'the Spririt creates unity, residing in the heart of every believer, It can create some supernatural effects'
Vayrim listens intently.
Cyto says 'we are to maintain this unity in the bond of peace'
Cyto says 'all the other attributes are important'
Cyto says 'patience, humility, tollerance, these are all important'
Cyto says 'note they are In love'
Cyto says 'the other emotions are something we fix'
Cyto says 'but Love, and Peace are something we are in'
Cyto says 'while we are exhibitting those things'
Cyto says 'the saints are tied together in a bond of peace, to break it up interferes with the spiritual struggle'
Cyto says 'the fellowship of believers is precious'
Cyto says 'with the spirit working in us we become like one organism truly'
Cyto says 'wometimes we may know the others words'
Cyto says 'sometimes we just feel a deep connection'
Cyto says 'sometimes we see an efect of the unity'
Cyto says 'but that fellowship is soo precious'
Cyto says 'God working in the whole body and them all getting the same messages'
Cyto says 'God bringing together a service without a plan and making it about something, where everybody feels the same thing and brings the same message'
Cyto says 'okay that's all i can do for tonight'
Cyto dramatically collapses to the floor from exhaustion.
Cyto says 'sorry for being slow'
Cyto says 'vay would you like to pray'