Bible Study log
Cyto says '." 5:15 Therefore be careful * how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise, 5:16 making the most of your time, because the days are evil.5:17 So * then * do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord'
Cyto says 'so wisdom is following God and its important to be wise in evil times to get good results especially '
Kendogarurumon says 'welcome back barek'
Barek says 'sorry lol'
Cyto says 'but what else should be alerting us in this passage'
Kendogarurumon says 'maybe barek knows what your looking for cy :)'
Cyto says 'there should be one particular thing that tells us we may be missing something'
Cyto says 'hey barek'
Kendogarurumon says 'sorry but i cant think of any answers that havent already been given'
Barek says 'hi....sorry as soon as i joined company came over'
Vayrim says 'That we are to be careful how we live?'
Cyto nods.
Cyto nods at Barek.
Cyto says 'well we mentioned that'
Cyto says 'its something you should always have your eye out for'
Cyto says 'what's the first word of the passage'
~Verse to Room from Kendogarurumon~
Ephesians 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Kendogarurumon says 'see'
Cyto says 'er well from my version'
Kendogarurumon says 'erg... oh you mean in the version you used'
Cyto says '." 5:15 Therefore be careful * how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise, 5:16 making the most of your time, because the days are evil.5:17 So * then * do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord'
Kendogarurumon says 'therefore'
Cyto says 'what should you think when you see that word'
Kendogarurumon says 'whats it... um... there for? pardon the pun'
Kendogarurumon grins mischievously.
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'you should be going to your bibles quickly and looking at the previous verses to find out why  this passage was'
Cyto says 'therefore means that this passage is because of the previous passage'
~Verse to Room from Kendogarurumon~
Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Cyto says 'now remember we determined two specific things that this passage said'
Cyto says 'so what we're going to do is keeping those two ideas in mind, find out why they are true by looking at the previous verses'
Cyto says 'so what two things did we learn from this verse that we mentioned before'
Cyto pokes Tyrael in the ribs.
Cyto points excitedly at Kendogarurumon!
Cyto says 'kendo?'
Kendogarurumon says 'ack... and the thought just slid right out of my head'
Kendogarurumon frowns.
Kendogarurumon says 'i hate it when that hapens'
Cyto says 'its okay'
Cyto says 'well this is why notes are good'
Kendogarurumon says 'um... that we need to be carefull how we live?'
Kendogarurumon says 'is that one ?'
Cyto says 'that's part of one we need to be careful how we live because?'
~Verse to Room from Kendogarurumon~
Ephesians 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Cyto pokes Tyrael in the ribs.
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'what does that mean the days are evil'
Kendogarurumon says 'exactly what it says'
Cyto says 'did the day misbehave'
Barek says 'no'
Cyto says 'ookay what does it mean in other words'
Barek says 'it means...'
Cyto smiles happily.
Vayrim says 'It means that we live in an evil, sin-corrupted world?'
Cyto says 'yes vay, although its speaking specifically of time'
Cyto says 'not just space'
Barek says 'when it says that the days are evil it means that we live in an evil sin infested world where satan almost has control '
Cyto says 'so give that....'
Kendogarurumon says 'the people of the day... not the day itself are evil'
Kendogarurumon says 'um.. yea.. what barak said'
Barek says '>'
Barek says '?'
Cyto nods at Barek.
Barek says 'confuse you kendo?'
Kendogarurumon says 'sorry... barek rather'
Cyto nods at Barek.
Kendogarurumon says 'no'
Barek says 'ok just checking'
Cyto says 'well in part that'
Kendogarurumon says 'i was agreeing with you barek'
Barek says 'ok thanks :D'
Barek says 'and in another part...'
Cyto says 'but referring to time and not people or space what does it mean'
Kendogarurumon says 'yea... what barek said... as in... yea he just said what what i was trying to get at :)'
Kendogarurumon grins mischievously.
Cyto says 'people are always going to be Evil'
Cyto says 'but Paul is commenting that these aren't the good old days these are the bad old days'
Cyto says 'in as much as it seems like a particularly trying time'
Kendogarurumon says 'no cy... not always...just as long as there this side of heaven'
Cyto says 'well yeah'
Tyrael says 'well i agree with cyto'
Cyto says 'and those empowered by the Holy sSpirit have the ability to do Good'
Tyrael says 'humans are always evil'
Cyto beams a smile at Tyrael.
Barek nods at Tyrael.
Kendogarurumon says 'as i said ty... THIS side of heaven'
Cyto beams a smile at Kendogarurumon.
Tyrael says 'we won't be human anylonger when we get to heaven'
Kendogarurumon says 'wont we?'
Tyrael says 'nope'
Cyto says 'um well that's kinda debateable'
Kendogarurumon says 'what are going to be ty?'
Cyto says 'it says we'll be given new bodies'
Kendogarurumon says 'your not saying you think we become angels or something'
Kendogarurumon grins mischievously.
Tyrael says 'we will put off the corruptible and put on the incorruptible'
Cyto says 'now one place says we'll be like angesls'
Cyto says 'but it doesn't seem to indicate that we will be pure spirit beings'
Tyrael says 'we will be like Jesus in his glorfied state'
Cyto says 'i could be wrong here but it seems to indicate we will have actual bodies'
Kendogarurumon says 'what are you getting at ty? are you trying to say you do think were going to become angels?'
Cyto says 'Jesus came in the form of a man'
Tyrael says 'nope'
Cyto shakes his head no.
Kendogarurumon says 'im pretty shure were still guna be human... not angel... and not spirit'
Tyrael says 'I say we won't be human, we will be like Jesus which put off the flesh and put on the glorfied state'
Kendogarurumon says 'and certainly not animal'
Kendogarurumon says 'just um... humans the way god intended us to be before the fall'
Kendogarurumon grins mischievously.
Cyto says 'well its sorta an matter of semantics then, many say Yeshua is fully God and Fully man'
Cyto says 'okay we could look at it a few ways, but lets not get hung up on that'
Cyto says 'what were the two points we got from these verses'
Cyto says '." 5:15 Therefore be careful * how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise, 5:16 making the most of your time, because the days are evil.5:17 So * then * do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord'
Vayrim says 'That we must understand what God's will is to be wise, and we must be careful how we live?'
Kendogarurumon says 'i said how we live vayrim.. he said that was only part of one of them'
Kendogarurumon grins mischievously.
Cyto beams a smile at Vayrim.
Cyto says 'we must be careful  particularly because of the times we live in because in evil times its paritcularly important to get good results'
Cyto says 'okay now given those two things'
Cyto says 'Why are they'
Cyto says 'therefore those things'
Cyto says 'what's the therefore saying those things are because of '
Cyto says 'that should be your cue to look at the previous verses'
~Verse to Room from Kendogarurumon~
Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Kendogarurumon says 'hrm...'
Vayrim says 'Because if we truly are Christians, then we were once darkness but are now light? Everything exposed by the light becomes visible?'
Vayrim says 'If we wake up and live the way we should, Christ will shine on us?'
Cyto says 'well that was a GOOD summary of the previous part of the chapter'
Vayrim says 'Thanks.'
Cyto says 'now how does that relate to the verses in question'
Cyto says '." 5:15 Therefore be careful * how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise, 5:16 making the most of your time, because the days are evil.5:17 So * then * do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord'
~Verse to Room from Kendogarurumon~
Ephesians 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
~Verse to Room from Kendogarurumon~
Ephesians 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
~Verse to Room from Kendogarurumon~
Ephesians 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Vayrim says 'Because what we do will now be more heavily scrutinized and noticed than before?'
Cyto says 'hrm i didn't pick up on that exactly, but thats a part of it'
Cyto says 'being exposed is part of being Christian, so ultimately we can't expect any good from hiding or that the situatin will remain'
Cyto says 'but what else'
Kendogarurumon says '.. OH! so one of the two things its saying is we need to be good... stewerds... however its spelled... of our time'
Vayrim says 'Because we are supposed to be light for others? We are supposed to set good examples?'
Cyto says 'yes show the verse where it i plies that'
Cyto says 'implies that'
Cyto says 'that's part of it'
Cyto says 'what else'
Cyto says 'to answer the question you really have to look at all the preceeding verses and find all the reasons why it is important to do those two things that we mened'
Vayrim says 'Because we are to live as children of light, and the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness, and truth?'
Cyto says 'that's part of it what else'
Vayrim says 'Because we are to have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness?'
Cyto says 'what does being wise and making good use of our time have to do with not walking in the fruitless deeds of darkness'
Vayrim says 'Walking in the fruitless deeds of darkness will make us unwise, and prevent us from making good use of our time?'
Cyto says 'well its also a product of a lack of wisdom or can be'
Cyto says 'that's an interesting expression Fruitless deeds of darkness'
Cyto says 'it can have a couple of levels of meaning'
Cyto says 'deeds of darkness because they're fruitless or fruitless deeds because they're dark'
Cyto says 'there's an element of truth to looking at either way i think'
Cyto says 'because the times are so evil its important that we make our deeds count'
Cyto says 'and our time count'
Cyto says 'there are so many crises going on and so many bad things happening that when you think of yourself that you're a tool empowered by the holy spirit its kinda dark not to let yourself be used effectively'
Cyto says 'i convict myself when i speak cuz i waste a lot of time'
Cyto says 'but this is where the wisdom  of God comes in in part'
Cyto says 'by following his wisdom we can have some knowledge of what will be fruitless'
Cyto says 'not merely evil but also fruitless'
Cyto says 'and that becomes a consideration more and more as you grow'
Cyto says 'what other reasons'
Cyto says 'anyone'
Cyto says 'Awake sleeper'
Cyto says 'we should awake, and get with the program because the days are evil and we want to glorify God'
Cyto says 'we don't want to be fruitless and we do want to make full use of the Blessings that god gives us, that he'
Cyto says 'okay who wants to pray'
Cyto says 'lo?'
Cyto says 'okay well its just about my bed time'
Cyto says 'so I'm going to pray to close us out'
Vayrim says 'Okay.'
Cyto says 'Dear Jesus we praise you, we glorify your name and thankyou for all your blessings, God please bless the study to our understanding'
Cyto says 'keep us thinking it and doing it'
Cyto says 'God thankyou so much'
Cyto says 'please help us in all our endeavours, help us to be your children, to be fit bearers of your name'
Cyto says 'God please let us represent'
Cyto says 'we thankyou and praise you God pleas help us to know what to do to have strength to overcome our struggles, to have desire to passionatley struggle against our flesh to have passionate to seek and save the lost, God please help us'
Cyto says 'and bless us and heal us and be our father and comfort say make us open to each other, give us family  when our own isn't so nice among our brothers and siters in you , thankyou for adopting us God God please be with us forever and especially through the week'
Cyto softly says amen.
Cyto gives everyone a big group hug!
Cyto gives Kendogarurumon a brotherly hug.
Kendogarurumon smiles happily.
Cyto gives Barek a brotherly hug.
Cyto gives Vayrim a brotherly hug.
Kendogarurumon gives Cyto a sisterly hug.
Kendogarurumon says 'good study cyto'
Kendogarurumon smiles happily.
Cyto smiles softly at Kendogarurumon, showing the love of Christ in his eyes.
Vayrim gives everyone a big group hug!