Bible Study log
Jazmine says 'that is how we grow :)'
Cyto says 'okay log on'
Jazmine covers her mouth in an attempt to silence herself.
Cyto says '5:13 But all things become visible when they are exposed by the light, for everything that becomes visible is light. 5:14 For this reason it says, "Awake, sleeper, And arise from the dead, And Christ will shine on you." 5:15 Therefore be careful * how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise, 5:16 making the most of your time, because the days are evil. 5:17 So * then * do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 5:18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be '
Cyto says 'filled with the Spirit, 5:19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord, 5:20 always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father,'
Cyto says '5:21 and be subject to one another in the fear of Christ.  5:22 Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord.'
Jazmine says 'hey cyto in vs 14  where is that quote from?'
~Verse to Room from Jazmine~
Ephesians 5:13-21 13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. 14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. 15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, 16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. 18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; 19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; 20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; 21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
Jubilamb grins mischievously.
Jazmine says 'wherefore who said it?'
Tyrael says 'yeah who said taht'
Cyto says 'hold on a sec'
Cyto says 'Your dead will live'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise.  Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
You hear Jazmine hrm.
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Isaiah 51:17 Awake, awake, stand up, O Jerusalem, which hast drunk at the hand of the LORD the cup of his fury; thou hast drunken the dregs of the cup of trembling, and wrung them out.
You hear Jazmine hrm.
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Isaiah 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.
Jazmine says 'ok so it is quoting isaiah but not a direct quote'
~Verse to Room from Cyto~
Isaiah 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.
Cyto giggles.
Cyto says 'RISE AND SHINE!!!'
Jubilamb grins mischievously.
Cyto says 'did anyone realize how OLD that was'
Cyto says 'THY LIGHT is COME!'
You hear Jazmine hrm.
~Verse to Room from Jazmine~
Malachi 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Cyto says 'and the Glory of the LORD is risen upon thee'
Cyto says 'I like THAT verse'
Jazmine says 'well the quotes aren't direct so he is using allusion?'
Tyrael says 'no the quotes are direct'
Cyto says 'i dunno'
Tyrael says 'verse 60 is the main quote'
Jazmine blinks slowly...
Cyto says 'those are the references i got'
Jazmine nods.
Cyto says 'it could be a translation thing'
Jazmine says 'yeah me too'
Jazmine says 'well i have 4 different ones here....'
Jazmine coughs loudly.
Jazmine says 'interesting thought that it has "and Christ will shine on you" in quotes and that isn't in the original texts'
Jazmine says 'so someone said it'
Jazmine says 'anyway cyto continue'
Cyto says 'there were NO quotes in the original text'
Jazmine says 'sorry'
Cyto says 'there was no punctuation at all'
Cyto says 'quotes are the printers/translators thing to help us'
Cyto says 'anyway'
Jazmine smiles happily.
Cyto says 'Awake sleeper and rise from the Dead and Christ Shall give the light'
Cyto says 'here I believe we're talking about people living in a VERY Bad way'
Cyto says 'as we mentioned last time'
Cyto says 'how do i put this'
Cyto says 'I think one way of looking at it would be that when you are in something very dark'
Cyto says 'but expose it'
Cyto says 'things that are done in secret but bring it to the light and are open to be dealt with by the church and the body and confess it to God'
Cyto says 'what was once darkness becomes light'
Cyto says 'now its hard to understand that, how could darkness become light'
Cyto says 'but I think what it may be saying is that God will use that darkness, deal with you and work all things for Good for those that love him/do his will'
Tyrael says 'not that it won't be unpleasant'
Cyto nods sagely at Tyrael.
Cyto says 'see when we have deep personal stuff'
Cyto says 'especially stuff that we don't want anyone to bother us about we may hide it away or get quiet or say its personal and retreat'
Cyto says 'but when we actually talk to people and let them in'
Cyto says 'espeicially Christians, God Too for that matter then light is being shined on the problem and God can work things out'
Cyto says 'your friend could become a great sexual identity counselor if she ever will humble herself and submit herself to God'
Cyto says 'He'll use EVERYTHING'
Cyto says 'so lets talk more about what it means to walk in the light'
Cyto says 'anything else here talk about walking in the light'
Cyto says 'look at the last passage'
Cyto says 'what else might be walking in the light'
Cyto says 'in fact how could we relate each verse to LIGHT'
Cyto says 'and/or darkness'
~Verse to Room from a brother~
Ephesians 5:13-16 13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. 14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. 15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, 16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Cyto says 'more'
~Verse to Room from a brother~
Ephesians 5:16-20 16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. 18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; 19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; 20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Cyto says 'till 22'
~Verse to Room from a brother~
Ephesians 5:16-22 16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. 18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; 19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; 20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; 21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Cyto smiles happily.
Tyrael says 'be filled with teh spirit and fellowshipping'
Tyrael says 'giveing thanks and respecting God'
Cyto says 'tell me from each verse what it has to do with light and darkness specifically'
Tyrael says '17 reading the word and understanding,(light)  (dark) Not reading the word or reading but not understanding'
Cyto says 'you still here kendo'
Cyto nods at Tyrael.
Cyto says 'good'
Tyrael says '18 light, don't get drunk on booze, but get drunk on the spirit, dark getting drunk on our sinful fleshly wants'
Cyto says 'how else could getting drunk be dark and not light'
Cyto says 'specifically'
Tyrael says 'you could make a fool out of yourself'
Tyrael says 'or out of the faith'
Tyrael says 'hypocrite'
Cyto says 'that's dark in terms of bad'
Cyto says 'but its also dark in terms of lack of understanding'
Cyto says 'when you get drunk you cloud your mind'
Cyto says 'right and wrong becomes skewed'
Cyto says 'you may not have as clear control of your words and actions'
Cyto says 'do unwise things'
Cyto says 'verse 16 it talks about redeeming the time'
Cyto says 'if you are drunk it makes that hard, instead of living in the light clarity and sobriety'
Tyrael says 'being drunk applies to more than just booze'
Cyto says 'you are darkening your mind and seeking self pleasure over other's good'
Wargreymon sighs.
Cyto nods sagely at Tyrael.
Tyrael says 'it could be drunk on self pleasure'
Cyto gives Wargreymon a brotherly hug.
Cyto nods at Tyrael.
Tyrael says 'like wanting a gf or bf or mate'
Wargreymon blinks innocently.
Cyto says 'actually that's not wrong'
Cyto says 'see God created you to desire a mate'
Tyrael says 'it is when it takes over like being drunk'
Cyto says 'and the things God created you to do are not wrong'
Cyto nods sagely at Tyrael.
Cyto says 'correct'
Cyto says 'when you let what God intended for Good be taken to evil then its not good any more'
Tyrael nods.
Tyrael says 'ttfn Its late and I need to go to sleep'
Cyto says 'we need to take care to stay on God's side of the fence'
Tyrael waves happily.
Cyto gives Tyrael a brotherly hug.
Tyrael says 'yep or God will vomit you out of his mouth'
Cyto says 'in the beginning of the book it talked about God's sacrifice for us'
Cyto says 'where's that verse he who began a good work in you'
Cyto says 'phil 1 6'
Cyto says 'For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.'
Cyto says 'isn't it in ot too'
Cyto says 'anyhow'
Cyto says 'in beginning of chapter it talks about how Christ died for us'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'how he offered himself as a sacrifice a sweet aroma'
Cyto says 'but then it goes on to say How no immoral or idolatrous or covetous man has a place with him'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'it says don't let bad stuff be even named among you'
Cyto says 'and it says that we shouldn't let people deceive us with empty words about sinning'
Cyto says 'so what i think all that means is that Christ sacrificed something Good for us to live'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'the least we can do is sacrifice what is bad that we would serve him'
Cyto says 'and do His will'
Cyto says 'here its talking about drunkeness'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'drunkeness is  a bad thing and selfish'
Cyto says 'we sacrifice drunkeness to help others'
Cyto says 'just like Christ sacrificed His life to help us'
Wargreymon agrees absolutely.
Cyto says 'its reasonable'
Cyto beams a smile at Wargreymon.
Cyto says '5:19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord, 5:20 always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father,'
Cyto says 'okay what does that have to do with Light'
Cyto says 'and darkness'
Cyto says 'Jazmine :)'
Cyto says 'Jubes?'
Cyto says 'ne1?'
Cyto pouts.
Cyto says 'Okay well when your depressed or lonesly or sad or even really tempted to sin if you start praying and sing hymns and thinking about bible verses it can have a big effect on your disposition, it sorta is like lifting a cloud off your head'
Cyto says 'and then the temptation being lifted you can see things the way they really are'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'and that the temptation isn't so desirable'
Cyto says 'ne1 still here?'
Jubilamb says 'when you are thinking about bad things, you can just imagine in your mind a song, hymn, a Bible verse, and the temptation goes away.'
Cyto beams a smile at Jubilamb.
Cyto says 'its not always easy'
Jubilamb says 'for example, I have had an addiction that I have been trying to get rid of for about 8 years'
Cyto says 'but it helps'
Cyto nods at Jubilamb.
Cyto says 'chewing gum?'
Jubilamb says 'I pray a lot and sometimes it comes back really strong, but at those times, I just start singing "Jesus, name above all names"'
Jubilamb says 'no, not chewing gum.'
Cyto nods.
Cyto pokes Jubilamb in the ribs.
Cyto says 'prayer requests'
Jubilamb says 'say an addiction I will not name because it's too personal. and embarassing.'
Cyto nods at Jubilamb.
Cyto says 'jaz you got anything'
Cyto pokes Jazmine in the ribs.
Wargreymon says '(--|CuratorS> she might be away from the computer'
Cyto nods at Wargreymon.
Cyto says 'do you have anything that'
Cyto says 'that you would like different in your life wargy'
Wargreymon says '(--|CuratorS> not being lonely all the time if I can get out of the house more with my laptop atleast'
Cyto nods.
Cyto says 'okay lets pray'
Cyto says 'Dear Yeshua We praise you'
Cyto says 'God please come here'
Cyto says 'and fill us and be in us and fill htis place and pour over'
Cyto says 'god please help all of us here'
Cyto says 'cuz you know we have a multitude of issues, and satan's such a stinky poo head not to mention us, it can be pretty hard to even talk about them'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'God please give us boldness and people we can trust, and confidence in you to share our stuff with those that can help us'
Cyto says 'God please give us victory in our lives over our addictions and stuff'
Jubilamb nods.
Cyto says 'God we christians can be a bunch of hypocrites living lives and letting others think we have it so together or telling htme we don't but not being specic enough, fearing if they knew the truth they wouldn't accept us, and we don't trust you to take care of things, myself included, God  even our deepeds t hurts, we're too afraid of being hurt again, or even giving up because  we think there's nothing we can do'
Cyto says 'God please rebuike these lies'
Cyto says 'give us the confidence to know that you will take care of us that your way is best and to have the strength and love to do it'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'God I ask you for the strength to change our lives significantly we can get too comfortable even in a painful situation please give us the strength to do the painful things we need to do to get out of them and get to a wonderful place that you want us to be'
Cyto says 'God please help us to be like you'
Cyto says 'God let us overcome'
Cyto says 'and protect us for all the scarey things'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'God you are our comforter and protector and the one in whom we trust, our Good father'
Cyto says 'I pray for Ty and Brandy and ME and Me and Me and Jubes, and Mona, and Kendo and Wargy, you know are stuff please Help us God'
Cyto says 'God please help us'
Wargreymon nods.
Cyto says 'forgive us our sins God, and we repent, lead us not into temptation , but deliver us from the evil one for thine is the Kingdom and the power and the Glory forever'
Cyto says 'Thine is the power and the Glory'
Cyto softly says amen.
Cyto gives everyone a big group hug!
Jubilamb boldly proclaims 'Amen!'
Kendogarurumon hugs Cyto.
Cyto encompasses Kendogarurumon in an ENORMOUS bearhug!
Wargreymon encompasses Cyto in an ENORMOUS bearhug!